Kjas wrote:
Let's be honest.
Women have no problem with men who are genuinely decent people.
They have a problem with 2 things:
a) Guys who feel they deserve, are entitled to, or have a victim attitude about things, especially about women
and
b) Guys who lack purpose, clarity, and depth; who are great at something and have something to give to the world and live it and have something to show for it.
Now if you are both A and B, well then yes, you are well and truly screwed.
Yeap, this is exactly the problem. If you meet a decent guy and you're not attracted by him, then he has to fit one of those two options. Or perhaps both of them. Because otherwise, you'd find him attractive (what doesn't mean that you would want something with him, but at least you would agree he's attractive).
So this is the problem for decent guys. In order to justify the lack of attraction they're accused of points (a) and (b) you stated. It's understandable they get disappointed.
Vectorspace wrote:
Oh well...
I know a girl who has been beaten by her boyfriend a number of times, but instead of dumping him, she is moving in with him now. You could argue that there are dozens of "nice guys" around who would never do that to her – but neither does her teddy bear.
But neither her teddy bear nor the "nice guys" are actually attractive to her. Her boyfriend is, so she choses him.
Yeap. And that's OK. Everyone is free. The problem appears when:
(1) To justifiy from an intelectual point of view her emotional choice, she needs to depreciate someway the guys around.
(2) Besides that, to avoid, from the same intelectual point of view, the consequences of her choice (she's beaten) she has to blame those guys around, as a part of a 'patriarchal' conspiracy. So those guys around, who didn't beat her and didn't have any decision making authority over her choices, suddenly they're responsible of her abuse.
Not nice.
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