why not date a moderate autism women

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billiscool
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28 Jul 2013, 9:21 pm

how comes ''never dated ever''guys here never go after
moderate autism women
I've done well with moderate(or lower) autism women.
they are friendly,and many of them will talk to guys first,
carry on conversation,and plus alot of them,don't do
gender stereotypes (he's too nice,he must pay,he's not
a real man)

if you guys want to get a gf,try dating a moderate autism women
I've been successful with moderate autism women but
romantically fail with nt women.



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28 Jul 2013, 9:22 pm

"Never"?

It has happened.



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28 Jul 2013, 9:42 pm

They either are functioning enough to have boyfriends or too shy to wanna talk to you at all. Or insane. Or all three.



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28 Jul 2013, 9:46 pm

I've never knowingly met anyone with any form of autism, mild or not. So that settles that!



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28 Jul 2013, 9:47 pm

1000Knives wrote:
They either are functioning enough to have boyfriends or too shy to wanna talk to you at all. Or insane. Or all three.

I must be insane. Good to know. :P



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28 Jul 2013, 9:49 pm

A lot of them, including a significant % with Aspergers, cannot live independently. So you would have to deal with parents, other caretakers, and the rules of group homes (usually don't allow sex). Even meeting one would be quite difficult, if they never go anywhere unaccompanied by a caretaker.

Besides, some of them may have legal guardians as adults and may not be able to consent to sex legally.

This goes for many with Asperger's and the majority with lower forms of autism.

In addition, a significant % of women with autism are asexual. Among aspies, it's close to a third vs. less than 10% for male aspies. The lower functioning you get, the higher this % becomes.



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28 Jul 2013, 11:51 pm

He was talking about moderates Tyri0n, what your describing is not moderate.



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28 Jul 2013, 11:59 pm

GregCav wrote:
He was talking about moderates Tyri0n, what your describing is not moderate.


Your view is not clinically accurate. Asperger's/HFA is by definition high functioning yet a lot cannot live independently. It's very common for HFA to live in a group home.

Moderate functioning autism would be someone who can use a fair amount of rudimentary speech and language but may have severe deficits in self-care, etc. It's highly unlikely they could ever open a bank account, manage money, keep clean, or secure most types of employment, or do most of what is necessary to live independently.

Low functioning would be someone with severe impairments in basic self-care tasks (possibly dressing themselves and using the toilet) and little or no language development.

Those are the clinical standards. The WP definition of "high" and "low" functioning is skewed WAY upwards because you have a lot of self-diagnosis, and aside from that, clinicians themselves have been diagnosing HFA/Asperger's at dubiously high rates where other diagnoses would have been used previously. I know of a boy who got into multiple fights and threatened to shoot up his school and was diagnosed with Asperger's based solely on his antisocial and violent behavior.



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29 Jul 2013, 12:06 am

Stargazer43 wrote:
I've never knowingly met anyone with any form of autism, mild or not. So that settles that!


Me neither. Finding one would be difficult enough let alone dating her. Maybe where Bill lives all the women wear signs around their neck in public that say if they're diagnosed or not. lol



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29 Jul 2013, 12:17 am

Tyri0n wrote:
GregCav wrote:
He was talking about moderates Tyri0n, what your describing is not moderate.


Your view is not clinically accurate. Asperger's/HFA is by definition high functioning yet a lot cannot live independently. It's very common for HFA to live in a group home.

Moderate functioning autism would be someone who can use a fair amount of rudimentary speech and language but may have severe deficits in self-care, etc. It's highly unlikely they could ever open a bank account, manage money, keep clean, or secure most types of employment, or do most of what is necessary to live independently.

Low functioning would be someone with severe impairments in basic self-care tasks (possibly dressing themselves and using the toilet) and little or no language development.

Those are the clinical standards. The WP definition of "high" and "low" functioning is skewed WAY upwards because you have a lot of self-diagnosis, and aside from that, clinicians themselves have been diagnosing HFA/Asperger's at dubiously high rates where a Schizoid, Borderline, ADHD, Antisocial, Bipolar, or Avoidant Personality Disorder diagnosis would have been used in years past.


moderate autism get assisants,and work at places that hire disable folks. but aspie who can live independently,marry or date nt;s,have a
mainstream Job, and drive,and went threw normal education classes are totally different from the more disable autism folks.

me,personaly I can't tell the difference between nt person and an aspie who dates nt,lives independently,and has a regular job.
like I said, more disable autism folks are alot different



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29 Jul 2013, 5:41 am

simple: i do not know any that are single and attractive (for me), so yeah, there's that.



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29 Jul 2013, 7:21 am

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I have dated at least 3... The kicker, only within an asperger summer camp I went to... My 3rd year and final summer there, this was after I graduated high school, there were some aspie girls there who were into me, and I only dated one that year... Only because my camper-staff job was operate the AV equipment, and take part in the DJing there


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29 Jul 2013, 7:52 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
They either are functioning enough to have boyfriends or too shy to wanna talk to you at all. Or insane. Or all three.

I must be insane. Good to know. :P


*raises hand as guilty of the bolded option* :razz: :lol:


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29 Jul 2013, 9:56 am

billiscool wrote:
how comes ''never dated ever''guys here never go after
moderate autism women


In general though does anyone really define a person they find attractive by wether or not they are autistic and to what degree it effects them? Attraction is either decided in the subconcious or in our predefined ideas of what's attractive. My point in saying that is I could find a woman attractive based on personality traits that are appealing to me and maybe autism wouldn't be a factor that effects that and maybe sometimes it is.

I think it would be an issue if someone was way too noisy or asked me endless questions as it would remind me of my brother which is probably not attractive for a woman :-P. The other day I was watching some aspie video on youtube and the woman who posted it just suddenly and randomly got distracted by something and went into a mini tangent and I couldn't help thinking it was cute, so I guess it varies.

Speaking of tangents.. I could probably have just said - If they're compatible, I don't see why not :P



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29 Jul 2013, 9:59 am

1000Knives wrote:
They either are functioning enough to have boyfriends or too shy to wanna talk to you at all. Or insane. Or all three.


But there are also plenty of insane women who aren't autistic at all :P



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29 Jul 2013, 2:03 pm

billiscool wrote:
how comes ''never dated ever''guys here never go after
moderate autism women
I've done well with moderate(or lower) autism women.
they are friendly,and many of them will talk to guys first,
carry on conversation,and plus alot of them,don't do
gender stereotypes (he's too nice,he must pay,he's not
a real man)

if you guys want to get a gf,try dating a moderate autism women
I've been successful with moderate autism women but
romantically fail with nt women.



Was your ex girlfriend moderate autistic?


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