Female Pick-Up-Artists (PUA)

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So it seems a lot of males are getting flack for being or trying out PUA material, because of their supposedly hidden intent. However, nobody addresses the issue that women are doing it too. They just seem to get away with it, by pointing fingers at men, while they are busy implementing their own PUA strategies.

In this video that I present. This woman, will actively encourage to seduce (PUA), but always making sure that women never look bad while pointing fingers at men. She doesn't talk about intent. She uses Cubans as a reference to explain how seduction works and how it plays out. There is also some talk about seducing and knowing what the other person is feeling.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBIL2sdfoVc[/youtube] So what do you all think?

They have entire companies based around female PUA strategies...I'm looking at you, Victoria's Secret!

Her advice are unisex.

It seems to be a talk about the value of self confidence.

The problem for some of us is that from an early age we have had people telling us that we are weird and don't fit in and that can destroy your self confidence. I think, I'm weird, why would anyone fancy me? What's the point in trying to win someone over?

The people that succeed have self confidence.

It sounds like Cuba would be an interesting place to visit for aspies, but I don't think I'd want to live there. If what she says is true it seems like they're basically constantly playing games with each other. That sounds so tiresome to me!

Unfortunately, I think she's right about the value of self-confidence and persistence. Yes, those people who won't take no for an answer tend to succeed more than they should, but they annoy the hell out of me. My "no" always means "no"!

She starts by talking about people's negative perceptions of seductions, which I agree with, and my expectation is that she will make a case against that later in her talk. But she fails to make that case.

In summary, I dislike both her and her talk.

I did get a TED talk, didn't I?

No, you didn't. You got a TEDx talk.

Here is an example of a high level female PUA tactic.

A: see target

B: move in close to target

C: say hi to target

D: target has now been seduced

I watched until after she did her dance and sent that guy off the stage and then I threw up in my mouth and turned it off.

I feel bad for that guy. He's totally uncomfortable and has no immersion - she should have brought a Cuban with her who would of been comfortable and could exemplify how the interaction was supposed to go. That is not how reggaeton is supposed to be done.

She's right about a lot if things. I've commented here before how media cultural ideals for beauty and body image distorts ones self perceptions and encourages needless comparisons that deride self confidence.

She's right about rumba too. Once, a group of Cubans on your here tried to teach rumba to gringos here who were salsa dancers, and they were all too embarrassed to actually participate. They would dance by themselves, but not with a partner or in the circle.

There is a lot if game panting flirting and in general focus and appreciation on this stuff there in Cuba - but I think she is not the person to exemplify or teach it, because it's very obvious that all of this is learned for her and that it does not come naturally. Hence the "yuck" factor.

Not really. I wouldn't call Cubans PUA's the men or the women. It's just the culture - they never make a conscious decision about it. PUA is a conscious decision to learn with set formula and methods for your intentions that don't come naturally to you, which will often to some extent clash or contradict certain social norms in your own culture.

You can see although she is good, that it is all learned behaviour and therefore the yuck factor. PUA's who are guys here exhibit the same yuck factor that she does. And intentions play a large part of it.

Actually stalk - if you wanted to equate something with PUA men learn with a conscious decision and questionable intentions - I would suggest the closest thing for women are relationship oriented rather than sex oriented. Books like "The Rules" or "Why men love b*tches" set out a formula and methods that women can choose to learn by a conscious decision behaviour that otherwise would not come naturally to them for their own intentions. Some of it is quite manipulative. If you haven't read The Rules, then I suggest you take a look at it to see what they are advising women to do in order to get relationships. It's much more dangerous and damaging that what the woman in the TED video was suggesting.