Is it okay for a college guy to ask out a high school girl?
There's a girl in one of my classes who has been kind of flirty (at least, I think so. I.e she hovers around me sometimes, looks at me, giggles and teases me) and talking to me more lately, and I have kind of a thing for her now. We wound up hanging out after class today and she mentioned that she is in a program that allows her to take college credits while she is technically in high school - I had thought before that she was at least my age. I have wanted to ask her out for a while, but now am not sure it's a good idea.
Possibly relevant details:
-I'm 19
-I don't know how old she is, but she must be at least 16, since she has mentioned driving to school before
-I live in Washington and found out that 16 is the age of consent in our state
-She seems mature for a 16 year old: she actually got the teacher to change our class and make it more interactive, and she already knows what she wants to do for a career.
-We have some overlap in life stages, since we are both taking college classes and we both live at home
Under the circumstances, would it be okay to ask her out, or is the age difference too much?
nick007
Veteran
Joined: 4 May 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,683
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in capitalistic military dictatorship called USA
I think it should be OK. It's common for guys in high-school to date girls a couple years younger & if they stay in the relationship & the guys go to college, they're dating a high-schooner for a couple years while they're in college. The thing to keep in mind thou is that some high-school girls like college guys because the guys being in college is kind of the cool thing. I don't know if that's what going on with that girl or not thou, it may not be
_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"
"Hear all, trust nothing"
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition
Danger Will Robinson!
It gets complicated. 16 may be the age of consent, but if she ever sends you a nude picture, you are guilty of soliciting child pornography. Take a picture of her, that's producing child pornography.
I am a firm believer the safest bet is 18+ if your over 18.
AnonymousAnonymous
Veteran
Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 72,460
Location: Portland, Oregon
I believe some states allow you to drive to school, work, and extracurricular activities if you are 15, so there is a chance she is under the age of consent. This is mainly in the places with a lot of rural are, which I don't think Washington is, but you should probably find out how old she is first.
_________________
This is not a signature, I just make a line and write this under it every time I post.
nick007
Veteran
Joined: 4 May 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,683
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in capitalistic military dictatorship called USA
I think she would be in her senior or junior year to be taking college course so she's probably at least 16.
_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"
"Hear all, trust nothing"
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition
AngelRho
Veteran
Joined: 4 Jan 2008
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,366
Location: The Landmass between N.O. and Mobile
Dating is good as, but keep the physical stuff to a minimum. I've dated a high school girl before (as a college guy), and it was nice up to a point.
One thing I did that I found helpful was I got to know the parents. We also didn't spend a lot of time ALONE together or anything like that, and for a long time she was pretty insistent that sex was NOT going to be in the picture. She was also 17/18 when we dated.
We'd also known each other since high school and had a slight degree of history, so it wasn't a HUGE surprise that we got involved romantically.
Not that this reflects on your relationship (OP), but I'll go ahead and fill you in on where that relationship went: She'd been going to a private school and some of her high school credits got messed up. She couldn't graduate because of an issue with ONE of her classes, and of course it didn't make sense to repeat a grade over one class, nor did they really have the money to do that sort of thing. So she ended up dropping out of high school, taking off a year, got a job, and applied for community college a little later. After she'd quit school, she went totally wild, completely out of control, and all of a sudden relationships with decent men who'd treat her well sank straight to the bottom of the priority list. Her new preference for low-lifes followed her into college, and she hooked up with this rich kid (because he was rich…I'm not) and they eventually got married. He couldn't get a job after college and she ended up "carrying" him for a couple of years, and they ended up divorced. She resumed her wild streak and ended up pregnant. Eventually she met a semi-famous local author, remarried, moved away, and I think they have at least one child of their own by now.
I'm not saying this is where YOUR potential relationship is going, but basically the moral of the story is you can't assume that the way a person is at high school age is how she's going to be long-term. People tend to get these totally irrational ideas that they have to "find themselves," which really just means they do what they want instead of pretending to be what everyone else expects. Which is fine. But dating a young person means you're dealing with someone who doesn't necessarily have the same degree of freedom you do and may be acting less-than-authentic (because that's what's expected). It's not their fault, so this isn't a judgmental thing. But it would be unfair to say that you really KNOW someone that young when they have all these hidden characteristics that haven't quite bubbled up to the surface yet. That's something that takes time.
I'm pretty much the same person I was in 5th grade, btw, but most people tend to take a little longer to get their lives straightened out in terms of how they want everything to be. So to sum up, proceed with caution and understand that. Dating is OK, but by all means keep everything casual and stay visible. Get to know the folks if at all possible, and you should be fine.
I dont see any probs with 19 and 16, beside of visiting certain clubs or whatever, that might have age limits of 18.
About the stuff of "people can change". That will always be the same and if the girl was 16 or 19, would make no difference at all. If you think, that you yourself have already matured "to your finally personality in life", I´ll need to go laughing in the cellar, to prevent waking all neighbors out of the noise, that I will produce. ^^ Dont make anything special about the age differency, simply meet her the way she is, and if you both fit, then you fit. And if not, then not.
AngelRho
Veteran
Joined: 4 Jan 2008
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,366
Location: The Landmass between N.O. and Mobile
About the stuff of "people can change". That will always be the same and if the girl was 16 or 19, would make no difference at all. If you think, that you yourself have already matured "to your finally personality in life", I´ll need to go laughing in the cellar, to prevent waking all neighbors out of the noise, that I will produce. ^^ Dont make anything special about the age differency, simply meet her the way she is, and if you both fit, then you fit. And if not, then not.
It might be hard to believe, but some people do tend to get things figured out sooner than others. My experience was that I figured out what I was going to be when I grew up at an early age, so everything I did was intently focussed on that by about 5th grade or 6th grade. The only thing that changed was I learned more about what that meant and gradually acquired the intellectual and material tools to make those kinds of things happen. I guess it would be kinda like if you had a bunch of kids who enjoy playing with Legos, but then you have that ONE kid who is fanatically obsessed with them, or at least appears to be, and then you figure out it's because he's determined to be an architect one day and playing with Legos is more than a passing interest. I was THAT kid really since I started grade school. I was determined to be a metal god. My parents and grandparents were always buying these dinky guitars strung with monofilament (fishing line) that would break if you so much as breathed on them, or these cheap drum sets that would break under the least amount of pressure from a stick. All those toys ended up in the attic or the garbage, and it was distressing. Once I was into something that wasn't a toy and had some mentorship on how to go from there, my childhood was pretty much over. Of course, that led me more towards classical music as a field of actual study, and aside from cranking out the occasional power chord on my customized tele, I've pretty much let my dreams of 80s stardom rest. "Growing up" past that point just meant refining my vision and sharpening my skills. I could stop at any time and teach myself how to shred guitar…I just no longer care to now that I've got a good thing going on elsewhere.
I also observed that MAYBE one or two other kids my age had that kind of clear sense of direction and determination. I might add I also knew college kids with NO sense of educational or career direction. Everyone else was in some kind of weird in-between place…college kids who were flighty and predisposed to immature, high school drama, high school kids mature beyond their years who came from a wrecked home life and just wanted some relief.
I agree that 16 or 19 won't change the fact that people can/do change. But I also don't know this girl, either. What I DO know is a 16 year old has more time left in the educational and career system than a 19 year old does, and certainly more time to change her mind. Keep things light and fun and you'll do fine. If something romantic happens, great. I'm just saying you'll want to be a little more prepared to let go if she decides this isn't what she wants, whereas more mature people can say, "Hey, are you sure we can't work something out?" SOME people you can hold on to. It seldom works that way the younger you are, and more often if you try to hang on, it just ends in more disaster than it should have.
My wife and I are really "just friends." It's just that we've been "friends" long enough to know we don't want to share that area of our lives with anyone else. I believe the younger you are the more difficult it is to build relationships that way…the exception being if you are allowed to marry at relatively young ages, and I mean as young as 14-18, you can kind of grow INTO the relationship together and really make it a lifelong gig. This assumes, of course, that both sets of parents are actively involved and supportive in the young couple's lives. We don't live in an era that promotes that kind of thing or insists on making couples stay together when things get rough. Which is why young relationships need to be kept relatively open and casual until both parties are free to make decisions about growing relationships to more than simply, "Hey, you're kinda cute and I like you. Wanna have coffee?" You can still be "go together" (as we used to say, or as the previous generation would say "go steady," meaning you go out exclusively), but it doesn't necessarily follow that there's anything more than that.
Good relationships HURT when they end. Heck, most relationships hurt when they end, even when they're not good. I just don't want to see someone get burned over an age/maturity gap. And I think this situation is one of those that has more potential for failure. I can't say that this relationship WILL fail, but I can say it doesn't have as good a potential for success as something with a smaller gap in age/education level. I think there's just too much we DON'T know, which is why I'm making the generalizations. I'm not assuming any of this to be absolute--however, the opposite isn't absolute either, and I'd more recommend a course of action that involves less hurt and a better predictable outcome than something like this with so many more variables.
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
Former high school crush returns |
19 Dec 2024, 9:11 am |
Anyone working as High School teacher? |
16 Nov 2024, 8:34 pm |
Vicious attack on autistic girl of 14 - outraged |
18 Nov 2024, 5:18 pm |
School b+ student |
15 Nov 2024, 9:32 am |