Are Women taught to be prejudiced against Aspie men?

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22 Feb 2014, 7:02 am

I really felt hurt, when they started to describe Aspergers as Extreme Male Brain. After all, I began to think that Feminists might think that there stereotypes about Men in general, are somehow especially true of us, on the Spectrum. Indeed, I wonder where the whole Extreme Male Brain trope originally came from, in the first place?



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22 Feb 2014, 7:27 am

Simon Baron-Cohen, I think. Who is a man.



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22 Feb 2014, 7:41 am

Just be you; let the people with 'issues' with your nature (whether on their own experience, or prejudging you from rumors) avoid you - those who stick around on their own accord may be worth getting to know better.



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22 Feb 2014, 8:50 am

Blah blah blah, ra ra ra, yadda yadda. Hope this helps.

Some guy had a relationship and thought it up due to a lack of sensitivity issues.

Probably didn't get a good reaction from giving some girl flowers or something.

Don't let a definition like that get to you. Humans are stupid.

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22 Feb 2014, 9:34 am

Not all people fit the Gender Binary.


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22 Feb 2014, 9:55 am

TwinRuler wrote:
I really felt hurt, when they started to describe Aspergers as Extreme Male Brain. After all, I began to think that Feminists might think that there stereotypes about Men in general, are somehow especially true of us, on the Spectrum. Indeed, I wonder where the whole Extreme Male Brain trope originally came from, in the first place?


There's actual neurological truth to the description but it has nothing to do with women being prejudiced in any way towards AS guys. I don't see where you get this from.

The female brain is active (VERY active) on both hemispheres when engaged in verbal communication. The Male brain only activates the verbal region of one hemisphere when doing the same. In people with ASD, the male activity in the same center is not as active as in an NT brain and in the female ASD brain the same hemisphere that is active in the male is more active in her than on her other hemisphere.

A similar thing happens in the areas that are already known to be 'male' and 'female' of the brain. Ergo the male brain is much more active in spatial-related areas when speaking while the female brain actually loses activity there when speaking. The female brain has her memory centers much more active when speaking while the male brain loses activity when doing the same. ASD brains, as far as the latest research that I'm aware of, have a shocking 60%~ more activity in the cognitive centers (not memory or spatial or verbal centers) all the time and this activity dips/spikes low when engaging in verbal communication.

Women are wired for communication, men are wired for tasks. Its no surprise that the ASD brain seems 'male oriented' in its activity given the big socializing (of which verbal communication is a big part of) issues and the tendency of ASD people to focus on tasks.



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22 Feb 2014, 10:06 am

If you are asking about the Extreme Male Brain theory, OP, then it's not because of prejudice, its because of research. Or theory of research. I get where Mr. Baron-Cohen is coming from, and I agree with his basic idea, but the issues are easy to spot. For one thing, it puts the male brain in opposition to the female brain, as if females don't have Asperger's, and for that matter, it kind of puts the male brain on a pedestal. Whether the pedestal is good or bad is inconsequential. It also assumes that autism is genetic or mental, rather than looking at the underlying social expectations that cause people to act robotically for fear of making mistakes.

If you are asking if women are taught to be prejudiced against Aspie men, no, that's not as true as saying that women are brought up to find the (mostly) polar opposite of Asperger's to be attractive. But to be fair, saying it that way kind of reduces women to programmable dolls. What I absolutely can say is that the popular idea of "cool" and "success" is not something that Aspie men tend to excel at. Smooth, debonair, effortless charisma, photogenic, controlling the crowd with his mere presence, that's not Asperger's.



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22 Feb 2014, 11:28 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Simon Baron-Cohen, I think. Who is a man.


Do you mean Sasha Baron-Cohen? Borat?



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22 Feb 2014, 11:42 am

Nah, I think it has more to do with the "strangeness" that comes with the territory of our neurological condition. It's not just one gender that notices. Though it might seem that way if you're romantically interested in that gender.



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22 Feb 2014, 11:47 am

dc2610 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
Simon Baron-Cohen, I think. Who is a man.


Do you mean Sasha Baron-Cohen? Borat?


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22 Feb 2014, 1:12 pm

People are taught to be prejudiced against aspies, male or female.

So in a way, yes, but it's not gender specific, or condition specific, really. It's shocking how in this age of progress, we're still so backwards about mental illnesses/disabilities.



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22 Feb 2014, 1:39 pm

TheGoggles wrote:
Nah, I think it has more to do with the "strangeness" that comes with the territory of our neurological condition. It's not just one gender that notices. Though it might seem that way if you're romantically interested in that gender.


Yes but it seems that a non-confident (the social performance not the inside feeling of confidence) male that is introverted/shy-acting,etc is a huge turn off for the majority of females..yet those same qualities in females are considered endearing/cute/attractive to many males.



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22 Feb 2014, 2:18 pm

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22 Feb 2014, 2:53 pm

I think the big thing is that we tend to be very clingy and obsessive, two traits that most women absolutely despise.



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22 Feb 2014, 3:58 pm

Kyuubi wrote:
I think the big thing is that we tend to be very clingy and obsessive, two traits that most women absolutely despise.


Is being clingy common? I'm not clingy.

And obsessive I know is common, but is it common to become obsessed with your significant other? I'm asking other aspies here.

I was obsessed with one girl when I was 16-17 then I grew out of it and haven't been the obsessive type since.



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22 Feb 2014, 4:41 pm

MegaBass wrote:
dc2610 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
Simon Baron-Cohen, I think. Who is a man.


Do you mean Sasha Baron-Cohen? Borat?


They happen to be cousins. Clicky.

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