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09 Sep 2009, 1:47 am

okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me :? . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever. :)

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though :?

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


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09 Sep 2009, 2:43 am

Seanmw wrote:
okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me :? . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever. :)

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though :?

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


Deffinently a tricky situation. My cousin is dating a underage girl, and he is 21. So, I can share a few cautionary tips. First of all, you are in a dangerous situation already. Not trying to freak you out, you just need to know that.

There are two basic strategies for making sure this situation doesn't get you in trouble, although, that is always an uncertainty.

You either hide any relationship you two might have from her parents.

Or, you seek their permission.

Each option has it's pros and cons. My cous went with option 2. It's been working for him for about a year now. Although, the two of them aren't "physical". Everyone agreed for things to be taken slow and steady.


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09 Sep 2009, 3:35 am

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Seanmw wrote:
okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me :? . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever. :)

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though :?

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


Deffinently a tricky situation. My cousin is dating a underage girl, and he is 21. So, I can share a few cautionary tips. First of all, you are in a dangerous situation already. Not trying to freak you out, you just need to know that.

There are two basic strategies for making sure this situation doesn't get you in trouble, although, that is always an uncertainty.

You either hide any relationship you two might have from her parents.

Or, you seek their permission.

Each option has it's pros and cons. My cous went with option 2. It's been working for him for about a year now. Although, the two of them aren't "physical". Everyone agreed for things to be taken slow and steady.
thanks for the input

option #2 seems ideal and would be hella cool if that worked out
but option #1 is far more realistic because #2 has a high chance of backfiring and earning me dirty looks.


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09 Sep 2009, 6:16 am

I''ve got a 14 year-old daughter and I would do anything to keep a 19 year-old away from her, including going to the police. She is just a child. She may look like a young woman, may behave like one, but inside she is still sooo young.



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09 Sep 2009, 6:25 am

I'd have to agree with Laura.



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09 Sep 2009, 6:43 am

Stop now before you get in legal trouble. Do not hang around waiting for her to get older. Do not hide a relationship from anybody because do not have a relationship in the first place. Do not ask her parents for permission. Do not write to her anymore.

You are treading in VERY dangerous water and you need to get out now. If you get on the sex offender registry, you are there for life.



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09 Sep 2009, 6:50 am

Seanmw wrote:
okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me :? . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever. :)

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though :?

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


Did you know she was 14 to start with?


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09 Sep 2009, 6:56 am

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You are treading in VERY dangerous water and you need to get out now. If you get on the sex offender registry, you are there for life.

I agree with him. If you need extra motivation read this :
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.c ... d=14164614



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09 Sep 2009, 11:47 am

This shouldn't even be a dilemma! As laura123 and Granite pointed out loud and clear, her parents could turn you in to the police at the drop of a hat. They might do that even in retaliation to something unrelated, like you tracking mud into their house. Obviously, if they have a shred of integrity, they won't do that, but they can easily do so if they wanted to. You are putting yourself in more danger than an elephant in a ivory poachers' camp. Yeah, it's unfair, but this what the NT society we created for us; now, we must live with it and pretend to enjoy it.

Honestly, 14 and 19 is too big of an age difference. You two are at very different life stages. Also, it would be hard to find activity you both can enjoy without the age thing coming into play: you can't see an R-rated movie together, most pool halls and some bowling alleys have an 18+ are restriction after a certain time, and I'm sure she has a curfew, so going out late is out of the question. I don't know how OK with it you'd be, but I definitely would have problems with it.

So what should you do? Start phasing out communication with the girl. Go online less and less often. Then after some time, make up a plausible excuse and end contact. Should her parents contact the police anyway, you'd have plausible deniability (an actual legal term): "I was talking to her online, but when I found out she was 14; I realized it was a bad idea to continue communication." Of course, this will only work if you did not suggest any meetings whatsoever, because that could be constructed as a proposition for sex and used against you big time.



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09 Sep 2009, 11:56 am

Good points, Aspie1. I might add that 14 year old girls often have the womanly body parts AND the raging hormones. What they don't have is the smarts to use all this correctly. So what one might think is perfectly consensual if the 14 year old girl is the one making the advances, certainly isn't in the eyes of the law or the parents.

I know a 28 year old man who had consensual sex with a 13 year old girl. It was the girl's idea according to him. His parents found out and he is doing 10 years in the Pennsylvania prison, he's also going on the sex offender registry when he gets out. The way my state's law works is that if there is more than a 3 year age difference if two people are found to be having sex, and one of the participants is younger than 16 then it is classified as rape. The older sex partner will be up on charges.

I don't care how great this girl is, it isn't worth it. Find another.

Oh, and one more thing, if the prosecution finds this message board and the accused has posted here ,one won't be able to use the "I didn't know" defense.

Mind you, I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just stating the facts.



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09 Sep 2009, 2:43 pm

Ah you live in WA as well. Have you read the age of consent laws?

The age of consent in this great state of ours is 18. An exception is made for couples where the younger is at least 16 but not yet 18 and the older is no more than 5 years older. So a partner of a 16-18 year old must be in the 21-23 age bracket.

Since the girl you've met is under 16 and you are over 18, it is clearly illegal in every shape or form.

Furthermore, since you are 19 and she 14 (5 years), it becomes a matter of months or even days whether or not it would be legal when she turns 16. Age difference between you two must be less than 5 years.

That said, you need to stay away from her, laws or no laws. She's an immature kid with no personality of her own yet. I'd venture a guess that she's been very malleable with your presence in her life, and is merely parroting your own interests and desires. She will be a completely different person in 4 years.



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09 Sep 2009, 3:54 pm

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Yeah, it's unfair, but this what the NT society we created for us; now, we must live with it and pretend to enjoy it.

What is unfair in trying to protect your child? I'm glad there are laws that protect de child and family. Of course a 14 yo girl will be more than happy with the attention of an adult, of course she'll be happy to do anything to please him and I'm happy that legally she doesn't have consent to give.



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09 Sep 2009, 3:55 pm

It sounds like she's crushing on you, but you need to stick with being friends. I don't see why you can't be friends, and acknowledge the romantic interest, without actually pursuing it.


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09 Sep 2009, 3:58 pm

duke666 wrote:
It sounds like she's crushing on you, but you need to stick with being friends. I don't see why you can't be friends, and acknowledge the romantic interest, without actually pursuing it.


I think it's a bad idea even to be friends. That sex offender registry is for life. It would only take one moment of both thinking "who will find out just this once?" to destroy his life. The stakes are too high.



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09 Sep 2009, 4:09 pm

duke666 wrote:
It sounds like she's crushing on you, but you need to stick with being friends. I don't see why you can't be friends, and acknowledge the romantic interest, without actually pursuing it.


People will assume it's more than a platonic friendship no matter what. If he were gay and partnered, then maybe, but otherwise, no one is going to believe it's 'innocent.'

OP, you need to cut all contact. No one in any position of power will be on your side about this, no matter how pure or honorable your intentions (or actions) are. People in this thread have basically already said they would lie to the police if it were their daughter.


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09 Sep 2009, 4:17 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
duke666 wrote:
It sounds like she's crushing on you, but you need to stick with being friends. I don't see why you can't be friends, and acknowledge the romantic interest, without actually pursuing it.


People will assume it's more than a platonic friendship no matter what. If he were gay and partnered, then maybe, but otherwise, no one is going to believe it's 'innocent.'

OP, you need to cut all contact. No one in any position of power will be on your side about this, no matter how pure or honorable your intentions (or actions) are. People in this thread have basically already said they would lie to the police if it were their daughter.


Yes. He needs to cut all contact. And no, absolutely nobody in this thread has said they would lie to the police.