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seeleunitone
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15 Mar 2007, 8:47 pm

I'm rewriting this post because in my haste & annoyance i misspelled a few words.What i was trying to say was i'm disgusted and sick of how on the news,talk shows,court tv,and reality shows that women tend to respond to the situations concering political issuse.The:downspiral in education, if birth control pills & abortion clinics are ruinning the country, wither or the economic situation will improve with time.from what i saw on various political debates on tv discussing the status,accoplishments,and roles women play in our societyhas droped at an alarmimg rate, girls are getting lower scores on tests, teenage pregnacy in girls though has decreased its still present,and now more then ever female teachers are have sex with their students and recive lighter sentences then men blaming their behavior on drugs & Booz. These women take stupid ricks and then when it dose not work they blame someone else for thei actions,or when they base issuse on life their respones is all emotion and liitle logic and reason. when someone suggest a reasonable solution to fix the problem women tend to react with hostility and whine, scream, blah blah.... Sorry, i'm rantting i just have a lot of prelem with people and when i type it out i might misspell a few words or drifted off and i may not be very articual.forgive :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: me



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15 Mar 2007, 9:10 pm

I think you mean standards not standers


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15 Mar 2007, 9:17 pm

:oops: :oops: Right, sorry sometimes i have a bad habit of misspelling thanks for pointing that out



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15 Mar 2007, 9:18 pm

seeleunitone wrote:
:oops: :oops: Right, sorry sometimes i have a bad habit of misspelling thanks for pointing that out


sorry, i just first didn't understand what you were asking and thought other people might not know either.

by the way, i can see what you mean about women sort of.


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15 Mar 2007, 10:10 pm

Considering the nature of the topic, I found the banner ad to the immediate left of the thread quite ironic:

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16 Mar 2007, 1:17 am

Please be careful with generalizations. If you think a few women teachers who sleep with students, take drugs, booze up represent the whole female race then you are very, VERY mistaken. Only a tiny percentage of society are female teachers sleeping with students. Their lack of punishment is nothing to blame on society or other women in general. Only a handful of people get to hand down sentences. There may be corruption in the judicial system, but do not blame that on the common woman or man who has no control over such things. A lot of judgements have to do with who has the most money and most power on their side.

I fail to see how birth control pills are ruining society. Please explain. The whole reason the Pill was created is because men expect to be able to have sex as often as possible without consideration of the side effects of doing such. ie: unwanted children that they run off and leave and the women get stuck with sometimes stuck with for life if they end up having a disabled child.

Personally I think you watch WAY too much tv and have no experience of the real world. But I suspect you are young, therefore have not had time to experience much of life yet. Quit taking the tv news & talk shows word for it as to how society is; go out and interact with a variety of people and see how people really are.



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16 Mar 2007, 1:43 am

There is not much I can do with this.It is an exception not the norm



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16 Mar 2007, 5:33 am

Ticker wrote:
Please be careful with generalizations. If you think a few women teachers who sleep with students, take drugs, booze up represent the whole female race then you are very, VERY mistaken.


I know that I didn't get any of this. *sad*



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18 Mar 2007, 6:33 pm

Fact is, after living years and years, that there is a double standard for women. Get used to it. No matter how unpleasent it may be, it is there. Women dress provocatively at work then sue when a man says something innocuous. They can say things that would get a man fired, but because of their gender everyone in the room will laugh it off. No, these things will always be here because women have learned early to manipulate the system(s). They will lie (to judges, the police, ministers and anyone else that is naive enough to listen), cheat and steal to get everything they want (you are inconsequential). Don't believe for a second that they are the weaker sex. Yeah, color me bitter! I've lived long enough to see all this, upclose and personal. Signed once bitten twice shy!
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18 Mar 2007, 11:22 pm

seeleunitone wrote:
i may not be very articual


lol

yeah women fight the fierest fight for equality, but only in every way they percieve to be regarded less or have a disadvantage over men. and in everything where the discrimination actually is benificial to them, well even bringing that up makes anyone be called an aßßhole.

them b*****s.
if they really want equality, they will also have to be forced into military service, they may not automatically get custady upon devorce, and any special womansympathy may no longer be aplied, with which i mean, whenever a man would be expected to endure something, women should too. then, and only then do they have the right to claim equality.



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18 Mar 2007, 11:29 pm

Please pardon me, while a few days ago i was typing this i belive i messed up on the editing and most of what i wanted to say on this post was edited out(to my understanding) what i was saying was: I am in favor of birth control pills, i think it was one of the many more brillent ideas of the 20th century, its just that what doesn't make sence is when in this country you'll notice that the rate of females in position of power & influnce has droped down in recent years as there is still a vast socioeconomical differences in a woman's pay check then a man's in the same line of work.And reguarding the sex scandles in the news media about female teachers having sex with their students,yes there may be alot of greed,corruption,and admitedly not every woman sleeps with their students its still pretty shamefull regardless that while if a male teacher sleeps with their students they go to jail while if a woman does the same thing they'll either think she's a poor,abused thing with a drinking problem and her sentence will be reduced to a virtual slap on the wrist;to really be a society of equality how about we either A:Treat both male and female offenders as criminals for their behavior with each getting the same long sentences as any male offender or B:Both male & female offenders recive proper councling,therapy and never be in the presents of small children because what about the victims they're the ones who are really being screwed over ( would any one put the blame for sexual abuse on an elven year old boy if a 35 year old molested him ???? no, didn't think so. As for women's garments isn't it a woman right ti wear what she wants( when not on the clock, if she in the business world and then she has to dress in a suit for one example.) on her own time should she wear what she wants if she so choose to. The only real problem comes in to play when society deems her a slute if she wears the wrong outfit, that its too skimpy and blames her if she is raped??! ! what the hell?? no matter what a woman or anyone wears it doesn't mean they desever to be raped or hurt, we should blame the rapist and punish that person/persons and not blame the victim.Hasn't anyone once thought about that?? what aperson wears is their business and no person should be harmed for wearing a mini skirt and tube top.Furthermore when a woan does take control of her body and uses birth control pills,condoms... she's considered a slute/whore and is looked down on by society but when she doesn't wear skipy clothes and is reserved she called prudish, where's the middle ground in that???? if a woman lives with a man for many years but doesn't want to get married she either(by society's standdar's) playing housewith the guy,but if she too dead set on getting married then she must be desperate!!

On another note:While its still some what not a big deal if a man has a younger woman on her arm if a women dates/marries a younger man then everybody's freaking out.I always wondered why some women aren't as straght forward in what they mean and don't seem to take charge in tough situation were they(meanig mothers,aunts, female social worker,ect.) could come together and rally to write to their local officals to encourage girls and of all ages to be proactive(i try to but i'm just one person but i try) in teaching them to take pride in reading,math,science because i always thought that if there's something you can do just do it.. oh, well.



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19 Mar 2007, 10:54 am

Natalie wrote:
Considering the nature of the topic, I found the banner ad to the immediate left of the thread quite ironic:

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Amen to that! Note to women: Men worship you. You could be mummified from head to toe, and many of us would still ask you out. (Just hoping, here, to ward off the inevitable wedding-in-underwear society is almost due for -- if it hasn't already occurred!)



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19 Mar 2007, 11:07 am

damocles wrote:
Fact is, after living years and years, that there is a double standard for women. Get used to it. No matter how unpleasent it may be, it is there. Women dress provocatively at work then sue when a man says something innocuous. They can say things that would get a man fired, but because of their gender everyone in the room will laugh it off. No, these things will always be here because women have learned early to manipulate the system(s). They will lie (to judges, the police, ministers and anyone else that is naive enough to listen), cheat and steal to get everything they want (you are inconsequential). Don't believe for a second that they are the weaker sex. Yeah, color me bitter! I've lived long enough to see all this, upclose and personal. Signed once bitten twice shy!
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I would not say that you are incorrect about many women, for I have personally been through the things you describe. However, as men focusing on the opposite sex, we do tend to zero-in on grading women more than we choose to grade the way we or other men treat others -- especially when, to us, male behaviour is the norm, and therefore anything annoying or offensive about some of it we can shrugg off pretty easily. I can identify with your sentiment though.



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19 Mar 2007, 11:13 am

hypermind wrote:
seeleunitone wrote:
i may not be very articual


lol

yeah women fight the fierest fight for equality, but only in every way they percieve to be regarded less or have a disadvantage over men. and in everything where the discrimination actually is benificial to them, well even bringing that up makes anyone be called an aßßhole.

them b*****s.
if they really want equality, they will also have to be forced into military service, they may not automatically get custady upon devorce, and any special womansympathy may no longer be aplied, with which i mean, whenever a man would be expected to endure something, women should too. then, and only then do they have the right to claim equality.


There's a long-misunderstood difference between equality and identicality. Saying men and women are equal, and should be treated so, is correct. Implying they are identical is, however, incorrect. (And thank God for that!) I would hate to wake up in a world where men and women are literally identical (AKA not men and women).

People confuse these in arguments all the time. I've heard it angrily shouted: "Men are the same as women!!" Scarry. (Medical journal, anyone?)



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19 Mar 2007, 11:00 pm

lol...yeah i would require to look up the technical deffinition of equality but i think you got a point



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19 Mar 2007, 11:03 pm

but that does leave me with the question wether by "should be treated as equals" you mean to include that women should be drafted into military service, and all those sort of prerogatives if they should all be equalised in the process..