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08 Sep 2015, 3:07 am

For those of you who have seen improvements in your love life due to changes you made, what were those changes and what improvement did you see? Your insights could be invaluable, let's gather them all up in one place.

Huge improvement, tiny improvement, anything in between. Can be any sort of improvement too (e.g. finally having someone reply to you on a dating website, getting more dates, meeting more suitable people, finding love, strengthening your existing relationship, etc. etc.).

(Obviously what works for one person may not work for the next, so let's not criticise the input here. If it's not relevant to you, just leave it. If it might be useful, great, try it out!)



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08 Sep 2015, 3:56 am

Realizing that disagreement can help people learn about one another. It also usually doesn't mean dislike either, more often than not, miscommunication is just a plea for patience; we're all sharing the planet and in modern societies, keeping one's life hospitable enough to accommodate others takes a lot of work and even more diplomacy.

I realized I have zero interest in being a center of attention except where my work and play are concerned and for the sake of those I love I should make those one and the same. People put up with all kinds of negativity for years just to make a few modest dreams happen, it's only fair to be patient about sharing them. I've got a century or so ahead, that's a lot of time to make sure everyone's happy.


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08 Sep 2015, 4:08 am

My top five list...

Refinancing our house (money saver)
Changing shift hours at my job (time saver)
Switching from DSL to Cable internet (time and in the long term money saver)
Embracing digital photography and putting away the film cameras (time and money saver)
New gas furnace (should be a long term money saver plus no more breathing carbon monoxide, I hope.)

Each ultimately has strenghened our relationship.


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08 Sep 2015, 4:13 am

You've got it really good to be talking about appliances in this context.


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08 Sep 2015, 4:18 am

cberg wrote:
You've got it really good to be talking about appliances in this context.

Well we found out our ancient 40+ year old furnace could have killed us last winter when they ran some tests this summer while cleaning up flood damage in our basement, in which case our relationship would have certainly been "over".


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08 Sep 2015, 4:24 am

Learning to laugh at myself.

This is something my husband taught me way back when we were dating, but if I didn't learn it our relationship probably would not have survived.

My sense of humor was *very* undeveloped when we met (and still is somewhat), but in the course of developing humor I learned how to laugh...and I learned how to turn the stupid or quirky things I do into an opportunity to find humor. I learned how to allow myself to be teased or laughed at by others (and joining in.) This reflected an overall "relaxation" of my personality, which was really necessary in order to experience the ebb-and-flow of a relationship. It also communicates that you like someone when you can laugh with them and find something mutually funny.

The two biggest complaints I got growing up were "Why are you so serious?" and the fact that I didn't get jokes and never laughed or smiled. So, I think this change was the most important one for me.



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08 Sep 2015, 4:36 am

@Rockymtnchris: Which reminds me, I find it worthwhile to take the heat for pestering everyone to keep their cars, technology and selves in general safe. After all, my life amounts to waiting and studying/working/goofing off until I even have to worry about risks like that. The most important constituent of toughness is compassion.

One can't be too loyal, and I mean that as a general unconditional rule. Even though I take forever and a half to warm up to anyone, real recognize real. How much more division can the world take anyway?


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08 Sep 2015, 4:43 am

nerdygirl wrote:
It also communicates that you like someone when you can laugh with them and find something mutually funny.


If I weren't one of the goofiest people you'll ever meet I doubt I'd be alive. The girls I know best have senses of humor I'm always trying to figure out. I'd almost prefer to stay in the dark about some of those questions :lol:

OP has the right idea. It's all about being reconciled with ourselves and then figuring out what works for others.


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08 Sep 2015, 5:21 am

- Got a fit body.
- Learned how to swim (my parents weren't swimmers) - a skill which is very useful for self-esteem and socializing in summer.
- Basic martial arts.
- Got a better job
- Not giving a f**k.

Those helped me in socializing and to get short terms, but not a long term relationship.

However, I am having very few friends again (one got married, one fought with other and never spoke again and both 'left' group, one still friend), so current focus should be socializing again.



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08 Sep 2015, 7:30 am

I learned to be more assertive and "dominant". Being a tall guy, that really helped draw attention to me but I still kept failing and was almost completely burned out. Did a final "why not?" date before throwing in the towel and got engaged less than 5 months later. I also moved in with a roommate just as I met her to save $$$ so I would not have to worry about being cheap on a date.

In short, I just resigned myself to what fate had in store for me and let the cards fall as they may.



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08 Sep 2015, 10:14 am

I have a history of dysfunctional relationships. I basically got with whoever showed willingness to be with me, whether I liked them or not. Or I chased women who were not available to love me.

What has helped me avoid these types of relationships were personal commitments I made to myself. 1. Don't pressure myself to get in a relationship or have sex just to be in a relationship or have sex 2. No sex outside a loving intimate committed relationship 3. Don't chase after women who are not available to be in a loving intimate committed relationship with me. 4. Work on myself so that I can be loving intimate and available in my romantic relationships.

These commitments have resulted in me NOT getting trapped in painful unfulfilled relationships for several years and becoming the type of man who is capable of being a good partner. Knowing that I'm a good catch improves my self confidence enough to handle the rejections and disappointments that come with dating.

SOME PRACTICAL THINGS:
Good hygiene and clothes
Being polite and respectful toward women in general
Moving to an area that has eligible women living there
Getting a job where I had enough money to date
Letting go of all stereotypes about women (every woman is different)

Have I found love? Not yet but I can date and have fun. I'm no longer a train wreck like I used to be. When a good match comes along I'll be ready.



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08 Sep 2015, 4:13 pm

Going to a prostitute helped rid me of the pressure I felt of still being a virgin at 23. I'm still a complete wreck, but at least I don't have that hanging over my head anymore.

Not the answer you were expecting, OP, I know. I'm just being honest here.



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08 Sep 2015, 4:22 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
I have a history of dysfunctional relationships. I basically got with whoever showed willingness to be with me, whether I liked them or not. Or I chased women who were not available to love me.

What has helped me avoid these types of relationships were personal commitments I made to myself. 1. Don't pressure myself to get in a relationship or have sex just to be in a relationship or have sex 2. No sex outside a loving intimate committed relationship 3. Don't chase after women who are not available to be in a loving intimate committed relationship with me. 4. Work on myself so that I can be loving intimate and available in my romantic relationships.

These commitments have resulted in me NOT getting trapped in painful unfulfilled relationships for several years and becoming the type of man who is capable of being a good partner. Knowing that I'm a good catch improves my self confidence enough to handle the rejections and disappointments that come with dating.

SOME PRACTICAL THINGS:
Good hygiene and clothes
Being polite and respectful toward women in general
Moving to an area that has eligible women living there
Getting a job where I had enough money to date
Letting go of all stereotypes about women (every woman is different)

Have I found love? Not yet but I can date and have fun. I'm no longer a train wreck like I used to be. When a good match comes along I'll be ready.


DING! DING! DING! Sounds like we have a winner!!


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08 Sep 2015, 4:30 pm

Gauldoth wrote:
Going to a prostitute helped rid me of the pressure I felt of still being a virgin at 23. I'm still a complete wreck, but at least I don't have that hanging over my head anymore.

Not the answer you were expecting, OP, I know. I'm just being honest here.


I'd rather be with a virgin than someone who has been with a prostitute. Actually, I wouldn't ever be with the latter at all unless I was lied to or never told and if I ever found out, boy howdy (let's just say you don't want to know what I would do). I don't understand why men think it's that important to get rid of their virginity that they feel going to a prostitute will make it all better.


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08 Sep 2015, 4:37 pm

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Going to a prostitute helped rid me of the pressure I felt of still being a virgin at 23. I'm still a complete wreck, but at least I don't have that hanging over my head anymore.

Not the answer you were expecting, OP, I know. I'm just being honest here.


I'd rather be with a virgin than someone who has been with a prostitute. Actually, I wouldn't ever be with the latter at all unless I was lied to or never told and if I ever found out, boy howdy (let's just say you don't want to know what I would do). I don't understand why men think it's that important to get rid of their virginity that they feel going to a prostitute will make it all better.


That's what you say. Neither one is ideal, but women will have an easier time rationalizing away their prospective boyfriend being a 23-year-old who had his first time with a prostitute than him being a 23-year-old with no sexual experience whatsoever; at least the former had the balls to not settle for being a virgin in his 20s and took action to remedy that. Deny it if you want, we both know it's true.

Also, you're not supposed to understand it; you're a woman, you don't care about sex.



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08 Sep 2015, 4:50 pm

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Gauldoth wrote:
Going to a prostitute helped rid me of the pressure I felt of still being a virgin at 23. I'm still a complete wreck, but at least I don't have that hanging over my head anymore.

Not the answer you were expecting, OP, I know. I'm just being honest here.


I'd rather be with a virgin than someone who has been with a prostitute. Actually, I wouldn't ever be with the latter at all unless I was lied to or never told and if I ever found out, boy howdy (let's just say you don't want to know what I would do). I don't understand why men think it's that important to get rid of their virginity that they feel going to a prostitute will make it all better.


That's what you say. Neither one is ideal, but women will have an easier time rationalizing away their prospective boyfriend being a 23-year-old who had his first time with a prostitute than him being a 23-year-old with no sexual experience whatsoever; at least the former had the balls to not settle for being a virgin in his 20s and took action to remedy that. Deny it if you want, we both know it's true.

Also, you're not supposed to understand it; you're a woman, you don't care about sex.


Dude, that's BS and you know it. Don't talk down to me about not understanding anything. I bet that you will NEVER tell any of the women (or your future wife if you end up being that lucky) that you were with a prostitute. In fact, most of the men in the prostitute thread said they would never tell which I believe is deceiving. If you do it, be proud of it and tell every woman that you're with how you acquired your new found skills. See how many decent women will still want to be with you. I'd keep that prostitute's number handy too, for future use.


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