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10 Oct 2015, 3:52 am

I'm just trying to get back into dating. I know I'll be meeting some NTs. I'm kind of scared they'll be patronizing if they notice I'm less than NT. Apperently I look cute, childlike and submissive, so I already attract patronizing/dominant people.


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10 Oct 2015, 6:37 pm

Just be yourself. Attract women that right for you. Not ones that are bad for you. Look for common interests, like for example: baseball. Finding something to your tuning. You'll know it when you see it. Bye for now.


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10 Oct 2015, 10:19 pm

Patronizing? meh… Maybe, maybe not. I'm just one of those take-what-you-can-get kind of people. If someone is patronizing, so what? A date is a date.

Also, I wouldn't read to much into it. It's easy to imagine NT's as patronizing. But is there some law out there that says people can't just be nice?



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10 Oct 2015, 10:26 pm

If you're confident it's unlikely that patronizing people will get to you.
I think if you actively keep in mind that you choose who you want to be with, it won't bother you too much.
Unless, of course, the person themselves are problematic. But nothing can help that, view it as a calculated risk.



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11 Oct 2015, 7:20 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
I'm kind of scared they'll be patronizing if they notice I'm less than NT.

If you believe you are less than NT, and present yourself as less than NT, then yes, they'll treat you patronizing like you're missing out. But if you believe you're equal though different (or superior though different :P ), then they'll be less likely to treat you patronizingly. A lot of people don't understand what AS is, and think it's some mental disorder that makes people only half-there and half missing out on life, so feel sorry for everything they're missing...when in reality, it would be equally valid for AS people to feel bad for NT people and all that they're missing out on. So, if you are the only person they've seen much that is on the spectrum, and if you present it as less than NT, then they'll feel sorry for you being less...but if you present it as being good, then they'll at least pause to question, if not believe you that it's good.

Is the initial instinct of NT people often to be patronizing? Yes, but only cause they don't know any better. Show them through your life that it's not something to patronize, and they'll back off.


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12 Oct 2015, 10:21 am

Whether you are NT, autistic, or whatever, you are a person with equal rights with others. Never let people treat you like less than a person.

NT's can be patronizing, Autistic people can be patronizing. I've run into both.



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12 Oct 2015, 10:28 am

LillaA wrote:
it would be equally valid for AS people to feel bad for NT people and all that they're missing out on.


What are NTs missing out on that way have, other than an extreme interest in a topic or area of study?



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12 Oct 2015, 10:34 am

There are times when some NT's, in my opinion, are missing out on alternative perspectives of things. Their view is narrow; hence, their enjoyment is less.



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12 Oct 2015, 10:35 am

ProfessorJohn wrote:
LillaA wrote:
it would be equally valid for AS people to feel bad for NT people and all that they're missing out on.


What are NTs missing out on that way have, other than an extreme interest in a topic or area of study?


Logic and critical thinking.



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12 Oct 2015, 12:42 pm

Redstar2613 wrote:
Logic and critical thinking.


I am not sure Aspies do that any better than NTs do. Is there any evidence for this?



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12 Oct 2015, 1:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Their view is narrow; hence, their enjoyment is less.

I fail to see the connection between the two.



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12 Oct 2015, 7:53 pm

If one's thinking is more flexible, one exposes oneself to more ideas, more viewpoints. This increases the possibility for enjoyment.



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12 Oct 2015, 8:23 pm

ProfessorJohn wrote:
Redstar2613 wrote:
Logic and critical thinking.


I am not sure Aspies do that any better than NTs do. Is there any evidence for this?

We just tend to be more logical, it's a common part of Asperger's.



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13 Oct 2015, 6:11 am

I'm not a very logical or critical thinker. I also avoid telling people I was diagnosed with autism. It's working pretty well. I barely deal with any patronizing people these days. The people who are patronizing tend to be patronizing because of my age and gender. They're usually on Reddit. I still get paranoid about patronizing people.


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13 Oct 2015, 6:25 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
There are times when some NT's, in my opinion, are missing out on alternative perspectives of things. Their view is narrow; hence, their enjoyment is less.


Yes this. NTs are far more stuck in a box with their thinking and enslaved by what other people think of them and seeking approval.