Would this series be a success if Christian was ugly & poor?

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The_Face_of_Boo
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25 Feb 2016, 5:48 am

This question was asked by a lady on goodreads:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/90 ... -ugly-poor

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/125 ... asn-t-rich

Look at the responses, guys, look... :lol:



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25 Feb 2016, 12:52 pm

And Lord of the Rings wouldn't be the beloved tome it is if it was about, say, Metallica trying to find a late night donut place.

I'm looking, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing.


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25 Feb 2016, 1:30 pm

Who cares, I don't even see why anyone would want to read that series...what I gather is basically its about some wealthy guy who beats on women with tons of erotic sex which somehow makes up for the main character being a piece of crap and lack of any real plot. No, can't say I see the appeal.


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25 Feb 2016, 6:16 pm

What point are you trying to make? And what's with the clickbait thread title?



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25 Feb 2016, 7:05 pm

Hopper wrote:
And Lord of the Rings wouldn't be the beloved tome it is if it was about, say, Metallica trying to find a late night donut place.

I'm looking, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing.


I would read that.



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25 Feb 2016, 7:08 pm

Hopper wrote:
And Lord of the Rings wouldn't be the beloved tome it is if it was about, say, Metallica trying to find a late night donut place.

I'm looking, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing.


Or you know.....Kiss saving Santa :P



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25 Feb 2016, 7:23 pm

Howdy. Ok, I read the book. The reason was because there was a discussion going on back on AC about sadomasochism and this book (when it first came out) and I couldn't really give a fair review of what I thought without reading the book. I actually made a thread where I posted as I was reading the book. There were people on AC that were saying that book was nothing like real sadomasochism. ANYWAY, I didn't go past book one because SPOILER: she leaves the guy because he beats her to a pulp at the end of the book. So I don't know how they get back together, but it just wasn't my kind of thing. I'm sure there are probably people here that are into that kind of thing - just not me.

There's a few things that I thought might be interesting like the handcuff stuff and blindfold thingy, Idk. Just not some of the other crap in that book. Lordy.

Oh, Boo, the guy can't be poor because then he couldn't afford "the room".


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26 Feb 2016, 2:19 am

My point that this book is simply a modern Cinderella, it's all about the fantasy of being rich prince charming - if he wasn't rich and charming, the book wouldn't be popular, as you can see in the majority of female opinions there.



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26 Feb 2016, 2:58 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My point that this book is simply a modern Cinderella, it's all about the fantasy of being rich prince charming - if he wasn't rich and charming, the book wouldn't be popular, as you can see in the majority of female opinions there.


Who would want poor and uncharming?

I didn't like the way they portrayed the woman - like she was some poor, ugly girl that should put up with all of his BS because she should consider herself lucky that such a guy would ever want "her type". The book was degrading to women. Did you read it?


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26 Feb 2016, 3:08 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My point that this book is simply a modern Cinderella, it's all about the fantasy of being rich prince charming - if he wasn't rich and charming, the book wouldn't be popular, as you can see in the majority of female opinions there.


Who would want poor and uncharming?

I didn't like the way they portrayed the woman - like she was some poor, ugly girl that should put up with all of his BS because she should consider herself lucky that such a guy would ever want "her type". The book was degrading to women. Did you read it?


I've watched the movie and didn't complete the book.

It is degrading and that's why I am so amazed why so mannnnnyyyy women love it.

It is probably the most popular book among women ever made.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:16 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My point that this book is simply a modern Cinderella, it's all about the fantasy of being rich prince charming - if he wasn't rich and charming, the book wouldn't be popular, as you can see in the majority of female opinions there.


Who would want poor and uncharming?

I didn't like the way they portrayed the woman - like she was some poor, ugly girl that should put up with all of his BS because she should consider herself lucky that such a guy would ever want "her type". The book was degrading to women. Did you read it?


I've watched the movie and didn't complete the book.

It is degrading and that's why I am so amazed why so mannnnnyyyy women love it.

It is probably the most popular book among women ever made.


I think it's because they are attracted to the "nice" side of the guy. He had this weird side to him, but they're probably hoping the woman can "change" him. Throughout the book, I was hoping he would change and get away from that crap. He even said he wanted to marry her - if i remember right, they were engaged towards the end.


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26 Feb 2016, 3:36 am

Nope I still think it's popular because of group think. It was the in thing to read it and it snowballed through advertising. Be that through the media or word of mouth.

So many people like Nurse Angela read it so they could see what I was like and participate in conversation. Only 1 person I know actually enjoyed the book. Everyone else admits it was badly written.

Another example of a woman getting swept up by sex and not money is Where Angels fear to tread by Em Forster. Also Far from the Madding Crowd.

Sexy is sexy, money is just a useful diversion. If you're hot who cares how much money you've got.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:42 am

^ He wouldn't have a helicopter :P.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:44 am

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Nope I still think it's popular because of group think. It was the in thing to read it and it snowballed through advertising. Be that through the media or word of mouth.

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But why this advertising campaign didn't affect men? It didn't become popular among men at all and it seems they read/watched it only after being dragged by the gf/wife.



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26 Feb 2016, 12:37 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My point that this book is simply a modern Cinderella, it's all about the fantasy of being rich prince charming - if he wasn't rich and charming, the book wouldn't be popular, as you can see in the majority of female opinions there.


I am not sure what you are getting at...yes the sort of women who are drawn into this kind of book would not be as likely to pick it up if the guy wasn't rich and outwardly charming when he's not beating the woman to a pulp, thus it would not be as popular. Would Twilight be as popular if the two guys that girl in the book is trying to pick between..weren't depicted as having perfect chiseled bodies and features and without all the mushy romance?


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26 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm

I guess you could reverse it and say Baywatch wouldn't have gotten high viewing figures , if it didn't have such good figures.