When you and partner have radically different politics

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26 Jun 2016, 2:33 pm

Trump/Bernie Stay/Go Nations/Globalization


It's rough. Im a pitbull debater but I am able to yield more often.
But what happens if communication gets blocked?


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26 Jun 2016, 2:40 pm

I could be with someone with different politics if we could learn from each other and at least find commonalities most of the time. It's possible to have different politics but shared values also. Do you have those?



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26 Jun 2016, 7:26 pm

In our case we have a ton of shared values. We do have a generation gap, he is the younger party. So by that token I just have seen more. Good and Bad.

When I was his exact age, we could have been cloned brains ... even counting the gender disparity. I was actually more confident and Pollyanna .

We are near same religion. Views. Upbringing. Social class. Oddness. Hobbies (I am more athletic even now than he shall ever be in his lifetime). Both took engineering. Family oriented but independent.


He is quite a bit softer than I am in my present incarnation , from a socialistic newly EU accepted (not a full member yet. though he talks like they are) country so leans farther left of center. He is conservative in most things.

Really our biggest difference are I am Nationalist/anti-globalist (I defy the attempt of powerful central govt. because once powerful enough the illusion of accountable will vanish like sundust)child of Texas Bircher democrats. My bloodlines have been in every war they were located near because we have always been in military service to our countries of allegiance.

He is actually very welcoming and keen on a central govt in a United States of Europe kind of thing. He and his parents never really saw any adversity other than being a Warsaw pact nation. His dad's lineage are old world nobility that managed to make it through the upheavals alive. Most are Uni Professors and business owners. The maternal grandparents are actually landowners. She just sold a patch outside Warsaw for like 300k USD.



Our other major chaffing is immigration. I am admittedly very hostile to uncontrolled immigration, especially illegal. I don't care if they are handsome JackLaLane men from planet venus with pockets full of cash and smell like chocolate. They better knock on the front door. They come through my back door they are gonna look down both barrels I point at them.
And I favor death penalty for undeniable murderers.


Actually I do enjoy his counterpoint. It keeps me from being too hardline if he is my mate for life. He reminds me of a girl I loved... myself. But he is a little more emo. A kinda fragile self esteem. Surprising pessimist for a person that wants to save humanity, puppies and children. And a little more dramatic. I don't get too heated because his view is from one who hasn't been hardknocked yet. He is also fully NT. I think my Asperger's may shield me some from being to connected to my ideals though I do hold to them dogmatically. So I do not feel attack on my personal worth when debating politics or religion.
But sometimes he seems on verge of yelling "trigger" and is close to being very angry when one of the hot topics come up and that worries me, that he is less tolerant traditionalism than I am to adapting to new ideas.
Specially with Brexit going on.

I am right wing and fairly low compromise in ideals as far as Guns , Less Govt, and immigration. A staunch constitutionalist. I am just a conservative progressive otherwise.
He is a crocus, I am Thistle >_<

I am not one to live a secret life. I am not sure I could lie about my views if I wanted to. I am ready to agree to disagree most the time. Most of these larger issue are not table talks except during elections or lawmaking session that we would vote in. But arguments that can make him shut down worry me since our unique situation cannot survive without solid communication at all times.

So I wonder how others defuse the bombs in their relations. We only have a couple, but they can take out cities.


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26 Jun 2016, 7:42 pm

I could be with someone who hates Trump, but not someone who likes Hillary. I cannot date a globalist. Not likely a candidate is one thing, having a complete polar opposite view, that I view as being the downfall of society is another issue entirely.



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26 Jun 2016, 7:44 pm

I wish I knew why politics so often gets personal. some of it is about morals and ethics, but most of it is about how we believe our country should be run. I don't talk politics with that many people for this very reason. Even in these forums, discussions can get really heated. I wish I knew why, and I wish I had a solution. The fact that you say your partner hasn't completely shut down or exploded yet is a very good sign though. :-)



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26 Jun 2016, 8:15 pm

No. I couldn't be with someone on the opposite side. It sounds like you give in quite a bit and that's the only reason it's working. It would only work with someone who is the same as me, or someone who really doesn't care and just goes with the flow. But I don't really think the latter would work either because politics is a big interest of mine and I'd want a Hunny to converse with and one who would listen to talk radio with me. I just love politics small talk!


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27 Jun 2016, 12:07 am

I have no problem with someone on the opposite side, provided they're not extremist in their views.


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27 Jun 2016, 3:39 am

Of the 4 inhabitants of my house, only two of them have the same religious beliefs - my 13 year old brother and I who are both agnostic atheists. My dad is the only one who has never changed his religion, remaining Mormon just like the entire family once was. Meanwhile my 17 year old brother is sort of a generic Christian, not identifying with any one particular religion but believing normal Christian things like the Bible, Jesus, and all that stuff. My mom and sister are still Mormon but they live elsewhere (long story). On top of that there is a lot of political disagreement in the family that would take a while to go through.

Despite all this though we all get along quite well, so I bet I could totally handle a partner with different political opinions. I'm a political centrist in a state full of far right Republicans and an agnostic atheist in a state full of Mormons, so I'm kind of used to it.


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27 Jun 2016, 7:56 am

I don't mind opposing political views. What I don't like is fanaticism in the expression of, or in the attempt at justifying, those views.

Like somebody who believes the Democrats still espouse slavery because they espoused slavery in the 1800s.

Political parties change over the years.



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27 Jun 2016, 8:14 am

Then I would summon family and friends to conduct a Partnexit referendum.



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27 Jun 2016, 9:59 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Then I would summon family and friends to conduct a Partnexit referendum.

No croissons for you!


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27 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Then I would summon family and friends to conduct a Partnexit referendum.

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27 Jun 2016, 8:50 pm

TheSpectrum wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Then I would summon family and friends to conduct a Partnexit referendum.

No croissons for you!


What's a croisson?


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28 Jun 2016, 12:15 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
TheSpectrum wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Then I would summon family and friends to conduct a Partnexit referendum.

No croissons for you!


What's a croisson?


Actualy it's croissant.



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29 Jun 2016, 4:49 am

I can't be with someone whose views are the complete opposite of mine. I don't believe in the "opposites attract" thing. To me these are important issues, if it was something superficial it would be whatever but If I can't respect their thoughts, then how can I respect them enough to want to be with them.


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01 Jul 2016, 4:17 am

I can be with anyone as long as they accept that I have different political beliefs & don't look down on me for being disabled instead of thinking of me as a lazy leach sucking on the teat of the hardworking American taxpayer that the GOP makes me out to be.


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