What does everyone think about this cl ad

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Just another so-called dating site advert that is really just a bitter rant from an obviously bitter person who should be avoided at all costs.

I don't get "bitter" from that. I think she's really just stating the obvious. I peruse CL personals out of boredom and amusement from time to time. Mostly all I see are "massage therapists" looking for truck drivers. Maybe I'm just pathetically inexperienced, but I just get this mental image of some skinny teen girl with meth mouth and who-knows-what diseases, or maybe an undercover cop--suffice it to say, no one I'd want to hang with much less get a "massage" from.

But I do see whiners on CL from time to time. And they are annoying. That's all this ad is. Just a rant telling whiners to waste people's time elsewhere.

But she's the one whining

And since when are guys who try their best but fail to become middle class whiners and worthless losers.

Why is a car and job what defines human males worth

She's katy.

She got bored from WP eventually and now she's doing her thing on CL....

She is being a bit harsh and making over-generalisations. The ones who annoyed her are unsuccessful men who are angry, have a negative opinion about women and feel entitled to a girlfriend, but her wording could easily be seen as putting all unsuccessful men down.

Yet, she is still right that no one (no matter what gender) is obliged to date everyone who is interested in them. It's okay to be selective because sometimes it's immediately possible to tell that a relationship with the other person wouldn't work.

The other one's financial situation also isn't irrelevant because if you live together and possibly have children it will affect both of your lives (and the children's).

Someone’s finances should never determine their worth as a human being but they do affect their chances at finding a partner.

Reality is theres a lot of women like this. Seen them on facebook, dating sites, Craigslist and other social sites like twitter

So it's better that men like me just kill ourselves.

Women's financial situation never effect their dating chances

This is ridiculous hyperbole, no one said this and no one even remotely implied it.



And this is just a lie, it's just flat out BS. There are lots of guys out there dating women who would definitely care that I don't have a job/house/car. You can't just make blanket generalisations like this and present them as truth, it's is lying. Stop making false statements like this about women, it's why they make posts like the one in the OP that you quoted. It is a response to things said to them like what you have said here, which is just a lie. You don't know all women who are dating and what effects their chances, you just can't honestly make a statement like that like it's factual when it blatantly is not factual. Stop lying about women and spreading misinformation and ignorance, it is not helping you or anyone else on this forum.

I have to agree with wilburforce on this one. A woman's financial situation does impact their chances of dating based on the values held by the suitor. And there's no need to jump off a bridge just yet. Just let girls like the one in the ad keep sniffing their own farts and remain single. Focus your energy on a girl or profile that you feel some connection with.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/201 ... te-me.html



You are kicking a man when he's down.

He's feeling suicidal and you call him a liar and take the woman's side here.

To re-quote parts of the CL ad that Sly quoted:



I understand you may not necessarily be agreeing with this part of the post, however I don't believe a man who broodingly makes a generalization against women and won't give him a chance while he's depressed constitutes the kind of hateful, aggressive response of that CL ad.

It's similar in my opinion to the showing of hateful and aggressive behavior towards those who are depressed or suicidal - it's unwarranted.

I did not perceive any aggression in Sly's post in this thread, more so I sense sadness, depression and frustration more than anger or hatefulness. So this certainly isn't the case of 'an eye for an eye' or 'fighting fire with fire'.

A 'liar' (in this context I'd rather use the term 'ignorant') does not deserve punishment, but to be educated, otherwise they'll only continue to believe what they already do.

I believe liars only deserve punishment when they purposefully intend to manipulate or abuse others with their lies.

If you believe this may be the case and his lies may harm others, please calmly suggest reasons as to why this may be so and I will read and consider them.

It's a lot like a guy claiming all the Feminist's he's personally met within his own life and no one else's were aggressive when he tried to be polite with them and, surprise surprise, every Feminist who reacts to him does not do so civilly but with aggression. If not a single one of them could calmly say 'I'm sorry you've only had bad experiences with us, but I do want you to know not all of us are like that.' it may reinforce his beliefs because no one can give him evidence to believe otherwise.

I do appreciate your attempts however to educate him on the matter, however I don't exactly agree with your method of going about it.

And so if Sly were to believe all women are cruel, vicious and un-empathetic...

Well...women like the CL ad, calling men 'desperate' and 'pathetic losers' will only reinforce his beliefs.

I know what Sly's like, he'll only hyperbole even more and will take this post of yours as negatively as possible and consider it a direct attack on him personally, whether you intend to or not.

Notice your source agrees with me, that there are in fact men that care about a woman's finances. He said it NEVER effects our chances, which you have proven is a lie.

I've watched many people more sensitive and diplomatic than myself try to reason with Sly. He seems incapable of hearing anyone and anything that disagrees with his misdirected ideas about women and dating, no matter how it's presented to him. I have seen him accuse people of attacking him who definitely were not (like KraftyKorty, who seems very kind and I have never seen be mean to anyone.) Sly obviously has issues that prevent him from perceiving the world around him accurately, but that does not excuse or justify saying sexist things about women. There are rules here against making generalisations about entire genders for a reason, and everyone has to follow them if they want to participate on this forum. He doesn't get to break the rules and get away with it because he's "troubled"--that isn't fair to him or to the rest of us.

Eh...for me it just comes down to circumstances. In general, I'm not out looking for someone who is dirt poor. It just comes down to why. A disadvantaged person born into that situation might be reasonably assumed to share the values of her family. So what's THEIR story? Are these people I share values with or not? People who work hard and simply fell into hard times, well, I can't hold that against anyone. People who are poor because of very bad choices they continue to make...and she's OK with that, well... That's not what I'm looking for.

Rich or poor, I find someone who frequently enjoys using credit cards and keeping up with monthly payments to be highly unattractive. There are certain levels of mental illness I'm just not prepared for. At one time, I would have said weight/body type don't matter. But having dated an overweight girl for several years and becoming all to aware of some of the company she kept, I can't help but associate certain behaviors with a certain body type. No, I don't believe ALL overweight women are like that. But having those experiences over a long period in my life was enough to make me very cautiously consider dating certain women.

Every situation is unique. I think you really just have to take the time to get to know someone to decide whether those are "dealbreaker" kinds of issues. If I were to marry a woman who'd fallen deep in debt to medical issues, for example, I'd work hard to bail her out. I don't fault people for making mistakes, AS LONG AS she admits to mistakes and works hard to avoid repeating them. I don't find overweight women necessarily unattractive, but I do want to know she's making healthy choices, feels comfortable in her own skin, and has an optimistic outlook on life as a whole.

So...looking at that, I think you have to be honest about who you choose to date. You can ask a small number of questions and make some visual observations and reasonable conclusions as to whether she is in the "safe" zone, i.e. someone you might find datable and potentially a great mate long-term. Others you might find within an acceptable risk and very likely find some real winners.

Yeah, I never said that it doesn't matter at all, just that it may matter less, which is what I believe. So my source agrees with my own views as well.

Still, I think both aspie men and women can struggle in this department.

I believe most people want someone equal to them in success level regarding education, career, etc. and this can leave most aspie men and women in the dust as we may struggle more than N.T.'s to be successful in life or achieve most milestones of success and independence at the 'average' time most others do.

So I do think Sly is right in that men and women like the ones who make the CL ad are being 'unfair', but life is unfair.

Despite me agreeing with Sly most of the time it is unfortunate how much financial success is valued over financial stability is in some of our personal experiences sometimes, I still accept this is the way people are, and most both men and women tend to have higher standards than both me and him but nothing can be done about that.

Still, these men have every right to complain (without making sexist generalizations, though there is a difference between 'sexist generalization' and 'most of the women I meet in my experiences tend to be this way, though in this case Sly was making sexist generalizations) about women having 'high standards' and not 'giving men a chance' just as much as women have the right to complain of men they believe aren't making an effort to improve themselves expect and feel entitled to a woman who is making an effort.

What I'm saying is that the CL ad, the one Sly quoted, is hatefully aggressive and in my opinion no better than the kind of talk Sly is making in this thread, possibly even worse.

They are both whining about the opposite sex, both generalizing, etc.

Sly rarely directly insults women, his tone is not aggressive, and yes, he is making sexist generalizations, which of course are wrong and break the rules, but he does not try and trigger women on purpose by calling them 'desperate' and 'pathetic losers' like the woman in the Craigslist ad is attempting to do towards men.

I just don't think Sly's attitude in this thread and the men who share Sly's attitude can justify complete and total hate and retaliation back.

More than anything else I see Sly as misguided.

I've been on a lot of Redpill and MWGTOW and 'Manosphere' parts of the web (not that I support their beliefs, I just go to see how toxic these places and their views are) and what Sly is doing right now is nowhere near as bad or misogynistic as these places are, and most of Sly's posts are relatively harmless at worst.

It's just some ramblings of a lonely depressed guy who has been consistently rejected by society.

How have I made a sexist generalization?
By saying finical situation doesn't effect women dating chances?
like to add I'm not good with writing and word use. I've noticed people often take offense to one word in a sentence and ignore the general meaning of the sentence and instead focus on that word. I'm u able to always remember to use the political correct most, some, a few, etc. especially when I'm upset. I see many aspies here make such mistakes, I think we should be more accepting and understanding. I'd be nice if people were like hey you probably didn't mean that but by using the word never that implies ......

I'm well awar that there's no 100% in anything. Nothing is ever one way there's always a majority and minority. There's millions of nice kind women, it's just there's billions of the others and as such majority they'll much more present. I've met far more superficial or mean women then I've meet nice women asides from on this site. And most nice women I've met are married or in relationships. I dont know if it's that or that taken women are nicer cause there no chance of dating me. Single women always seem to be mean to me or judge me harshely based on my income and lack of running car. Also the few single women who are nice to me also have no chance due to long distance of dating me.

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Quite honestly surprised to find people defend the cl poster but guess I shouldn't be.
I need to stop having hope for human race

Mean if a guy posted a rant about fat women complaining and flagging his posts about how fat women are hideous and he doesn't want to date them the internet would be up and arms and yelling the battle cry to hang the guy.