Friend in love with girl who only makes him depressed

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25 Oct 2016, 5:54 pm

So I have a very good friend who is an absolutely wonderful person. I'm just gunna tell you a bit about him because it matters to the situation.

He is very obese and suffers with agorophobia so never leaves his house. He is extremely depressive and gets very lonely. He is a lovable person who just wants to have a gf he can love. He is funny and an around great guy.

A whole back he met this girl. It seemed pretty harmless but they got closer to the point where they were exchanging sexts. However she has a boyfriend in America. When my friend (M) confronted her with his feelings she said no to him because of her boyfriend.

Not only that but she started to guilt trip him telling him she should kill herself cause she is a horrible person and that she is 'hitting her head against the ground'. M gave in apologising (god knows why) and the relationship continued.

He had bought her expensibe gifts and gives her all the attention whenever the craves it. She makes everything about her.

That was a while back. Recently M made the decision to try and end the romance part completely due to the negative effect it had on him. I sat and read through the messages which were clearly manipulative and made to make him feel like absolute s**t.

M nearly committed suicide this weekend. My fiance took the pills from his hand. The whole time ths was happening she still made it all about herself telling M she was hurting herself because of him.

At the same time she was talking to me about wanting a cat.

I am fustrated and angry but my fiance keeps telling me not to get involved. She may not be doing it on purpose but she is messing up my friend. What can I do to help or deal with this?



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25 Oct 2016, 6:21 pm

Why are they sexting if she has a BF?

Girls who pay any attention to me usually start sexting really fast then get bored and get a real man. When is sexting normally suppose to start?

I really don't know what to do about the situation other the I'm slightly jealous of him :(



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25 Oct 2016, 7:23 pm

sly279 wrote:
Why are they sexting if she has a BF?

Free gifts, duh.

Hmm. Alliekit. His personality type would indicate you need to find him a distraction of some kind.
She took advantage of him but he is not a very stable person and could behave dangerously if this is left unchecked. The distraction could maybe be something that would give him purpose relating to his skills.


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25 Oct 2016, 7:44 pm

My opinion is the guy seems like the type who needs someone to step in a little and stick up for him actually.

Somebody like (M) can be very easily manipulated and emotionally damaged by such a person as this girl. Why is she doing this? Any idea? Is it really just to milk the guy for gifts?

If this is the case I think if there's some way you can get involved you should. If the guy is basically a shut in, no one will be around constantly to help him not kill himself, though someone trying to take pills in front of someone else is likely not serious about trying to kill themselves just yet. But they want help. He may be in a situation emotionally he cannot handle, and if he's in unfamiliar territory, he needs help. I feel it's your duty as a friend to do whatever necessary to help him out with this.

I would.



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25 Oct 2016, 7:46 pm

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My opinion is the guy seems like the type who needs someone to step in a little and stick up for him actually.

Somebody like (M) can be very easily manipulated and emotionally damaged by such a person as this girl. Why is she doing this? Any idea? Is it really just to milk the guy for gifts?

If this is the case I think if there's some way you can get involved you should. If the guy is basically a shut in, no one will be around constantly to help him not kill himself, though someone trying to take pills in front of someone else is likely not serious about trying to kill themselves just yet. But they want help. He may be in a situation emotionally he cannot handle, and if he's in unfamiliar territory, he needs help. I feel it's your duty as a friend to do whatever necessary to help him out with this.

I would.

Minus the suicidal tendencies my cousin in the same boat. She took all his money, and this was his first girlfriend (who happened to cheat on him too). He is around Alliekit and her friends' age.

IMO - definitely manipulated for the gifts. You don't have to like someone to sext them, after all. All you are seeing are words on a screen.


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26 Oct 2016, 1:43 am

sly279 wrote:
Why are they sexting if she has a BF?

Girls who pay any attention to me usually start sexting really fast then get bored and get a real man. When is sexting normally suppose to start?

I really don't know what to do about the situation other the I'm slightly jealous of him :(


How can you be jealous of him? He tried to commit suicide



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26 Oct 2016, 1:45 am

TheSpectrum wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why are they sexting if she has a BF?

Free gifts, duh.

Hmm. Alliekit. His personality type would indicate you need to find him a distraction of some kind.
She took advantage of him but he is not a very stable person and could behave dangerously if this is left unchecked. The distraction could maybe be something that would give him purpose relating to his skills.


We have tried but all of us in the friend group eother work or study and he is unemployed so has alot of free time.



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26 Oct 2016, 1:51 am

Alliekit wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why are they sexting if she has a BF?

Girls who pay any attention to me usually start sexting really fast then get bored and get a real man. When is sexting normally suppose to start?

I really don't know what to do about the situation other the I'm slightly jealous of him :(


How can you be jealous of him? He tried to commit suicide

I e been there. And I often feel like dying. At lest I'd gotten some female attention in his case. I'll probably end up killing myself in the distant future never having any female attention or love. I'd like to have any. Suppose it's how like a dehydrated person will drink nasty horrible water. It's all a matter of perspective

Sorry your friend tried to kill himself though. Was he much happy before her or was he also alone,y and depressed?

Most the female romantic interaction and male friendships I had were negative but I'd gladly go through them again for the brief happiness I got from them before they went negative



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26 Oct 2016, 1:52 am

beakybird wrote:
My opinion is the guy seems like the type who needs someone to step in a little and stick up for him actually.

Somebody like (M) can be very easily manipulated and emotionally damaged by such a person as this girl. Why is she doing this? Any idea? Is it really just to milk the guy for gifts?

If this is the case I think if there's some way you can get involved you should. If the guy is basically a shut in, no one will be around constantly to help him not kill himself, though someone trying to take pills in front of someone else is likely not serious about trying to kill themselves just yet. But they want help. He may be in a situation emotionally he cannot handle, and if he's in unfamiliar territory, he needs help. I feel it's your duty as a friend to do whatever necessary to help him out with this.

I would.


He was by himself when he was going to try. My fiances parent were only 5 mins away and when we got a whiff that something was wrong he went round to see if his friend was ok and walked in on I'm with a pile of piles in his hand and a glass of water.

I've spoken to her briefly and she seems to crave attention. Like in a near obsessive way. If his attention shift for even a moment (he talked to a girl on okcupid once) she says she will kill herself or hurt herself. So she like doesn't want him as a bf but doesn't want him to talk to anyone else



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26 Oct 2016, 4:24 am

If I were you, I'd not listen to your fiancé and butt in. That woman is tormenting your friend, isn't she? If you truly care about him, you'll want to do your best to help him, and sometimes, that means working without thinking.


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26 Oct 2016, 4:50 am

He should drop her like a hot grenade. She's making him seem ridiculous.



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26 Oct 2016, 8:00 am

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If I were you, I'd not listen to your fiancé and butt in. That woman is tormenting your friend, isn't she? If you truly care about him, you'll want to do your best to help him, and sometimes, that means working without thinking.


I've spoken to him about it loads. We even staged two interventions to try and work it out. Each time he agrees woth us and backs off but it never lasts.

If we say anything bad about her he gets really angry and accuses us of 'messing thighs up for him'. I'm frightened that confronting him to harshly could make him isolate himself from us and turn to her even more.

I genuinely have no clue what my next step is. I've thought about talking to her about him or trying to see if I could tell her bf but I know M would hate me and my fiance would be really angry



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26 Oct 2016, 8:33 am

Well he has his fair share of blame, because he seduces and buys stuff for a girl who has a boyfriend and has already said no to him.
First he should stop talking to her, then he should do something about his obesity and, if it is possible, his agoraphobia



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26 Oct 2016, 9:23 am

Alliekit wrote:
So I have a very good friend who is an absolutely wonderful person. I'm just gunna tell you a bit about him because it matters to the situation.

He is very obese and suffers with agorophobia so never leaves his house. He is extremely depressive and gets very lonely. He is a lovable person who just wants to have a gf he can love. He is funny and an around great guy.

A whole back he met this girl. It seemed pretty harmless but they got closer to the point where they were exchanging sexts. However she has a boyfriend in America. When my friend (M) confronted her with his feelings she said no to him because of her boyfriend.

Not only that but she started to guilt trip him telling him she should kill herself cause she is a horrible person and that she is 'hitting her head against the ground'. M gave in apologising (god knows why) and the relationship continued.

He had bought her expensibe gifts and gives her all the attention whenever the craves it. She makes everything about her.

That was a while back. Recently M made the decision to try and end the romance part completely due to the negative effect it had on him. I sat and read through the messages which were clearly manipulative and made to make him feel like absolute s**t.

M nearly committed suicide this weekend. My fiance took the pills from his hand. The whole time ths was happening she still made it all about herself telling M she was hurting herself because of him.

At the same time she was talking to me about wanting a cat.

I am fustrated and angry but my fiance keeps telling me not to get involved. She may not be doing it on purpose but she is messing up my friend. What can I do to help or deal with this?


Tell him to cut off all contact with her because she's playing mind games with him.
If he won't listen, at least you tried.


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26 Oct 2016, 9:23 am

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Well he has his fair share of blame, because he seduces and buys stuff for a girl who has a boyfriend and has already said no to him.
First he should stop talking to her, then he should do something about his obesity and, if it is possible, his agoraphobia


I know it's his own fault he keeps going back with her. He is extremely awkward around girls so he isn't able to seduce. She always pulls him back by saying she is lonely and sending him...ahem...pictures.

I agree with you and before he started talying to her he managed to lose 10 stone. He has had quite a few people ridicule him for his weight (to the point someone climed up a pipe to the window of his bedroom on the first [second to US] floor just to humiliate and take the mick out of him.



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26 Oct 2016, 9:41 am

Alliekit wrote:
I know it's his own fault he keeps going back with her. He is extremely awkward around girls so he isn't able to seduce. She always pulls him back by saying she is lonely and sending him...ahem...pictures.

What do you mean, she sends him nudes?
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I agree with you and before he started talying to her he managed to lose 10 stone. He has had quite a few people ridicule him for his weight (to the point someone climed up a pipe to the window of his bedroom on the first [second to US] floor just to humiliate and take the mick out of him.

Wow, they must be really stupid, it is very dangerous to clim pipes I think. Did he gain the weight back? He should cut her off and focus on himself.