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KtMcS
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21 Jul 2004, 12:54 pm

a friend and I came up with the physical list the other day and I've added to the personality list. this is an ideal partner and probably impossible..or gay..but never mind!

physical

nice eyes
nice smile
toned
shortish, taken care of hair
a little bit taller
clean-shaven
15-19 years
well presented
warm
cuddly


personality

warm
funny
intelligent
well mannered
easy going
understanding
trustworthy[/u]


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21 Jul 2004, 11:07 pm

I hope you don't follow people around ticking stuff of your list... :wink:



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22 Jul 2004, 12:02 am

My ideal partner:

14-16 years old
Nice eyes: They have to posess something special in them and be something beautiful to describe them, it's hard to explain though. Eyes are the most attractive part of a person.
Hair: When it comes to hair, I'm really old fashioned. I don't like ridiculous hairstyles on guys. I prefer neatly groomed short hair. Not nescessarily a buzz cut or bald head though, I wouldn't choose that for the idea hair style.
I'd like my guy to be taller than me. That wouldn't be too hard since I'm about 5'3.
This seems kind of shallow but I want a guy who looks fit. I don't feel that I'm as strict as other girls when it comes to this but it's just what I want. I'm not going to go into much detail since I feel I'll get flamed but I just want a fairly normal guy that doesn't go too far into the spectrum of weight as in being too thin or too heavy...
I want somebody who's intelligent. As in a person who can carry a conversation that requires thinking and going deeper than just small talk. That clearly means no shallow guys. I don't want anyone too intelligent though because that would just make me feel ret*d and feel as if I'm boring the person to death.
Basically, I don't want my conversations to go like this:
Me: Should marijuana be legalized?
Boyfriend: Haha, It was real funny when my friend got real high last night!
Me: What are you views on God and religion?
Boyfriend: God is cool!
Me: Yeah, but what do you think.
Boyfriend: I dunno, he exists though.*looks puzzled about the questions I've been asking*
Me: What do you think of the movie Farenheit 9/11?
Boyfriend: Moore dissing Bush was mad cool, the rest was boring as hell.
Me: :x *walks out of the room*
I want someone who is clean. As in somebody who can groom themselves and do all of the basic hygiene. I don't want anyone who's really vain and bases their whole life on it though. No materialistic guys.
I want a guy who could truly understand my feelings and is willing to talk to me about anything. I want somebody who is truly kind and understanding and will always be there for me.



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22 Jul 2004, 6:40 am

blimey.. those 2 descriptions are like..exactly me.

i like a girl who can understand me for me, and accept all my little quarks.
looks quite cute and innocent, but..id like there to be 'more than meets the eye'
id like her to be creative, paint, draw, play an instrument or photograph stuff, whatever it is id be 100% behind her and help her achieve great things.
i wanna girl to be faithful and that i can trust her!
boobsize doesnt matter, and i like some girls with a bit of belly lol
i like girls that can eat massive pizzas infront of me and not get embarressed, eating is a normal and social thing dammit.



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22 Jul 2004, 6:43 am

wasnt asking too much there was i?



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22 Jul 2004, 12:16 pm

Sanityisoverrated wrote:
I hope you don't follow people around ticking stuff of your list... :wink:


only mentally :lol:...........if a guy is nice enough then im too busy talking to him to really care


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22 Jul 2004, 12:28 pm

haha that reminded me of a will smith qoute....

"oooh baby you GOTTA BE tired, cuz girl, you been runnin round in mah head all day long!"


yeah its cheesy..but its funny lol



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23 Jul 2004, 6:43 pm

These are characteristics I like in *any* person (but physical appearance wouldn't matter to me except perhaps in an explicitly sexual relationship):
-Not excessive body hair (and no facial hair)
-lean build (somewhat androgynous)
-Not "scary" looking
-short hair for males/any-length hair for females (though, I usually don't like *super* short hair on girls)
-not very masculine facial features
-big, bright eyes

-*no* superiority complex (but preferably no inferiority complex, either)
-kind, compassionate, generous
-even-tempered
-not embarassingly sentimental, yet still very loving and affectionate
-intelligent and talented
-introverted
-honest, yet tactful
-gentle
-doesn't nit-pick (especially about people)
-driven to accomplish goals
-responsible
-firm in dealing with abusive people (doesn't allow people to walk all over him)
-not completely self-isolating (1 or 2 people is fine)
-interested in me
-tries to be considerate of others
-doesn't try to pretend opinions are facts
-open-minded
-not crude/rude
-respectful of all living things
-good at helping me make decisions/understand things (including other people's perspectives)
-teaches me lots of things

I'm sure there are many more, but that's all I can think of right now :lol:



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23 Jul 2004, 7:13 pm

Unico wrote:
...not "scary" looking...


What do you mean by "scary" looking? If you're talking about Fester (from The Addams Family)--type looks, then that's fine, even though I happen to think he's kind of cute, but that's just me.

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23 Jul 2004, 9:23 pm

Mich wrote:
What do you mean by "scary" looking? If you're talking about Fester (from The Addams Family)--type looks, then that's fine, even though I happen to think he's kind of cute, but that's just me.

:!: Mich :?:


Hmm... It's hard to define. People that (to me) look constantly angry. Sometimes people that look big/strong look scary to me (I'm very small). But I was mainly thinking of people that look like one of my ex-boyfriends. I know it's irrational, but people that look like him still freak me out. I detest violence, so I have a fear of anyone who looks like they have the potential to be violent (again, I know this is irrational, because perfectly calm, nice people can be violent, it's just based on past experience). So basically angry-looking, big males tend to look scary to me.



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24 Jul 2004, 1:52 am

These are things that I would like in a potential girlfriend. :D

Physical
beautiful smile
lovely eyes
nice long hair
not too short (around my height, about 6 feet or thereabouts.)

Personality
decent
honest
compassionate
intelligent
kind-hearted
good manners
understanding
considerate
trustworthy
not judgmental



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28 Sep 2004, 10:44 pm

That's disgusting. I mean, like most men I'm certainly more attracted to beautiful women, but I really think it's a shame. We have reached such an advanced stage of development that we could ignore the visual aspect of a partner, have we not?


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29 Sep 2004, 10:09 pm

I have come to realize that I have an eyebrow fixation: to me, a man doesn't look quite right unless he has very expressive, and preferably dark, thick, eyebrows. I like unibrows. They do have to be *intelligent* looking eyebrows, though. After a lot of analyzing, I wonder whether this is because strong eyebrows frame the eyes and make the expression somewhat easier to read? I am pretty clueless at reading faces, so this makes sense.

I also am intimidated by big, strong looking men, esp. if they have big chests and arms. It looks like they could beat me up...but also it isn't attractive to me. I tend to like rather short, lean, angular guys who are not much bigger than myself (I am 5' 2").

Other than that, physical attributes don't matter too much. The personality is what matters...I am at a loss to describe this. All I can say is that when it's right, it's like a key sliding into a lock.



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14 Oct 2004, 3:17 pm

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That's disgusting. I mean, like most men I'm certainly more attracted to beautiful women, but I really think it's a shame. We have reached such an advanced stage of development that we could ignore the visual aspect of a partner, have we not?


I'm afraid that we haven't. A situation that I found myself in years ago crushed any illusion that I might be capable of any such ideal. Considering that I discount physical attraction *far* more than the average male, this tends to apply to the species at large.

During my first year of college, I met a woman online who I was very compatible with. She was intelligent, caring, and loyal. We shared the same interests. Most important, she seemed to have a genuine interest in me, which is something that, at the time, I had never experienced before in my life.

For months, we spoke of meeting in person, but whenever I pressed the issue, she replied that she "wasn't ready." Apparently the characteristic naivete associated with Asperger's Syndrome was at work here, as I did not question this reaction as being particularly suspicious. Finally, after numerous months of being strung along in this manner, I somehow forced her to accept the notion of meeting at a specified point in time in the future (we didn't live near each other, so travel needed to be planned in advance).

To make a long story short, she broke down the night before I was supposed to visit and explained that she had been lying to me about her weight. While she had told me that she weighed 140 pounds, her actual weight was over twice that amount.

I still ended up visiting her, as I had already paid for the plane ticket, but I could not bring myself to participate in a relationship with someone who I found to be extremely physically unattractive. I could easily say that the relationship failed simply because she lied to me and I could no longer trust her, but that would not be the truth.

It is important to note that certain base instincts are involved when selecting a mate that are nearly impossible to completely abandon. In fact, instinct itself is the reason why humans are so driven to pursue romantic relationships in the first place. Without this aspect, the distinction between a relationship and a close friendship would be vague, at best.

Instinct can be overcome to a certain extent, however. For example, I was barely physically attracted at all to the one woman I've had some semblance of a "real" relationship with (not the same woman as mentioned above), but this did not preclude the relationship from existing.

Unfortunately, some physical features are considered so unattractive that they inspire an immediate sense of revulsion in most humans when combined with the mental image of a sexual relationship. Obesity, physical deformity, and incorrect sex are the most notable of these features.

As another example, I would never consider participating in a relationship with a man. If humans were able to focus exclusively on personality when seeking a partner, everyone would be bisexual.



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14 Oct 2004, 3:22 pm

JayShaw wrote:
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That's disgusting. I mean, like most men I'm certainly more attracted to beautiful women, but I really think it's a shame. We have reached such an advanced stage of development that we could ignore the visual aspect of a partner, have we not?


I'm afraid that we haven't. A situation that I found myself in years ago crushed any illusion that I might be capable of any such ideal. Considering that I discount physical attraction *far* more than the average male, this tends to apply to the species at large.

During my first year of college, I met a woman online who I was very compatible with. She was intelligent, caring, and loyal. We shared the same interests. Most important, she seemed to have a genuine interest in me, which is something that, at the time, I had never experienced before in my life.

For months, we spoke of meeting in person, but whenever I pressed the issue, she replied that she "wasn't ready." Apparently the characteristic naivete associated with Asperger's Syndrome was at work here, as I did not question this reaction as being particularly suspicious. Finally, after numerous months of being strung along in this manner, I somehow forced her to accept the notion of meeting at a specified point in time in the future (we didn't live near each other, so travel needed to be planned in advance).

To make a long story short, she broke down the night before I was supposed to visit and explained that she had been lying to me about her weight. While she had told me that she weighed 140 pounds, her actual weight was over twice that amount.

I still ended up visiting her, as I had already paid for the plane ticket, but I could not bring myself to participate in a relationship with someone who I found to be extremely physically unattractive. I could easily say that the relationship failed simply because she lied to me and I could no longer trust her, but that would not be the truth.

It is important to note that certain base instincts are involved when selecting a mate that are nearly impossible to completely abandon. In fact, instinct itself is the reason why humans are so driven to pursue romantic relationships in the first place. Without this aspect, the distinction between a relationship and a close friendship would be vague, at best.

Instinct can be overcome to a certain extent, however. For example, I was barely physically attracted at all to the one woman I've had some semblance of a "real" relationship with (not the same woman as mentioned above), but this did not preclude the relationship from existing.

Unfortunately, some physical features are considered so unattractive that they inspire an immediate sense of revulsion in most humans when combined with the mental image of a sexual relationship. Obesity, physical deformity, and incorrect sex are the most notable of these features.

As another example, I would never consider participating in a relationship with a man. If humans were able to focus exclusively on personality when seeking a partner, everyone would be bisexual.


Well said


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14 Oct 2004, 3:45 pm

On that note, I suppose I'll take a shot at this "ideal mate" thing in an attempt to stay on topic:


Physical Traits:

Female.
Capable of bearing children.
Age difference of no greater than 10 years.
No blatant physical deformities.
Normal weight.
Straight teeth.
No sexually transmitted diseases.


Personality Traits:

Intelligent.
Loyal.
Socially withdrawn or indifferent.
Realistic.
Honest.
Prudent.
Genuine.
Conscientious.
Exhibits strong feelings for me.
Exhibits desire to have children.