I know it's wrong but I love my professor.

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14 Apr 2017, 11:18 pm

My professor is great. I had her for two semesters in a row and she is the advisor for a club I attend as well as being involved in a charity center I volunteer for. Now I'm not taking any of her classes but I still see her once a week for club meetings and I use whatever other excuse (I think is socially appropriate) to stop by her office and talk to her. In the time we've spent together which as I mentioned is a decent amount, I feel that we've gotten to know each other very well and are somewhat close. I know her kids pretty also, as well as a lot about other aspects of her life. She too knows all of my obscure, specific interests and hobbies and she asks me about them.

High school was really rough for me and I didn't know how I would fair in college. My first year of college was really a test for me and I don't think I could have survived without her. Since then she has always been there for me through all sorts of academic and emotional crisis. She always is willing to listen to me even if I go on too long about a particular topic, which I know must happen occasionally. She really understands me and my problems but never seems to judge. I don't know if she's aware I have aspergers or not.

Long story short, (and I know this is a common thing among aspies) no one had ever treated me this way before and I couldn't help but to fall in love. Or at least I think it's love. I'm really infatuated. When she enters a room I'm in I pray that she'll sit near me even though normally I don't like people to be too close to me or to touch me. I know not to stare when I see her but when I can I like to sneak a deep look at her because she's so beautiful and just seeing her brings me a lot of comfort, especially when I'm upset.

She's married and I don't have any realistic expectations of her reciprocating interest back at me or is becoming a couple. I know she could never go beyond caring about me as her student but I still am enamored none the less.

I guess maybe Im looking for advice. Or maybe for someone to tell me what it is I'm feeling but, whether anyone even sees this, it feels good to have written it out.



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14 Apr 2017, 11:35 pm

Enjoy the fantasy if you never mention it to anyone in person.


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16 Apr 2017, 4:52 pm

This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.



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16 Apr 2017, 8:52 pm

hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


I understand it would be unwise to ever try to pursue her but why should I try to forget about her? The crush I have on her brings me a lot of happiness as you described so why try to move on? I just don't get what the problem is with fantasizing. Also even when you take away the attraction I still have so much admiration and appreciation for her I would always like to spend time with her no matter what.



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17 Apr 2017, 2:29 am

Shaggyfromscoobydoo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


I understand it would be unwise to ever try to pursue her but why should I try to forget about her? The crush I have on her brings me a lot of happiness as you described so why try to move on? I just don't get what the problem is with fantasizing. Also even when you take away the attraction I still have so much admiration and appreciation for her I would always like to spend time with her no matter what.

Because nothing lasting will come out of it..so probably best not to dwell. Once you are done taking her class its unlikely you will stay in contact. Perhaps she listens to all her students without being overly judgmental, how do you know its specifically you? But yeah that you cannot even see why it would be good to move on from the crush is concerning...I mean how do you plan to 'spend time with her no matter what' when you've moved on from that course? Fail the class repeatedly till she falls for you? This is why it's healthy to drop the crush, otherwise you might attempt embarrassing ways of winning her heart or something. And risk going from former student to weird stalker person that started as a student in a class she taught.....


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17 Apr 2017, 3:33 am

Shaggyfromscoobydoo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


I understand it would be unwise to ever try to pursue her but why should I try to forget about her? The crush I have on her brings me a lot of happiness as you described so why try to move on? I just don't get what the problem is with fantasizing. Also even when you take away the attraction I still have so much admiration and appreciation for her I would always like to spend time with her no matter what.


I tend to side with you here, even if the chances of it to become mutual are slim. The reason is that I don't think you will get over the crush any quicker by pretending she doesn't exist. So either you enjoy the good feelings the crush gives you, which include thinking a lot about her, or you go the opposite way and build up hate against her. I think those are your only alternatives. Unless you find it likely that you will find another girl you like within a year or two, I think you should go with the former.



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17 Apr 2017, 3:40 am

hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.


No, crushes are wonderful. The best thing in the world. :wink:

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Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.


Do you have evidence that this actually helps?

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It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


Maybe it gets difficult because you try so hard to escape them? From my experience, they are not difficult at all. They are so easy, and you just go by that wonderful flow. When they diminish, you start to miss them and wish you had tried harder to prolong them. :mrgreen:



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17 Apr 2017, 3:54 am

Shaggyfromscoobydoo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


I understand it would be unwise to ever try to pursue her but why should I try to forget about her? The crush I have on her brings me a lot of happiness as you described so why try to move on? I just don't get what the problem is with fantasizing. Also even when you take away the attraction I still have so much admiration and appreciation for her I would always like to spend time with her no matter what.


I assumed that because you started a thread about this you feel like it's a negative thing. Crushes have a good fuzzy feeling about them, but there's also the searing pain too. My advice was to help you minimise the pain.



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17 Apr 2017, 4:01 am

hurtloam wrote:
Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.


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Do you have evidence that this actually helps?


Only anecdotal personal experience. I had a crush on a married guy which I felt pretty bad about. The above is how I dealt with it. I also avoided contact with the couple for about a year. In time it faded.


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It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


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Maybe it gets difficult because you try so hard to escape them? From my experience, they are not difficult at all. They are so easy, and you just go by that wonderful flow. When they diminish, you start to miss them and wish you had tried harder to prolong them. :mrgreen:


Aren't you asexual though? I find the frustration due to lack of sexual contact with the person I'm sexually attracted to to be very unpleasant. It just makes me feel despondent. I feel like I'm always going to be alone and I'm never going to find someone, why do I have to have to be tortured these unrequited, unfulfilled feelings that will go nowhere? It's torture to a non asexual.

I was happy when I met my present crush, but now I realise that things arent' going to go anywhere I just feel sad and kind of stupid. I just want the feelings to go away because the pain is greater than the nice little moments we have.



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17 Apr 2017, 4:13 am

hurtloam wrote:
Aren't you asexual though? I find the frustration due to lack of sexual contact with the person I'm sexually attracted to to be very unpleasant. It just makes me feel despondent. I feel like I'm always going to be alone and I'm never going to find someone, why do I have to have to be tortured these unrequited, unfulfilled feelings that will go nowhere? It's torture to a non asexual.


Might be related to being asexual. I don't know. I generally have no desire to have sex with somebody I have a crush on, whether it is mutual or not really doesn't matter. A crush "kills" any sexual attraction there might be. I'm also not so concerned about the aspect of it leading somewhere. Actually, for me, the crush itself is sufficient to keep me happy. The only thing I wouldn't handle well is if my crush is dating somebody else, but that never happened since high school. At least not that I know of.



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17 Apr 2017, 4:31 am

Hi, what a lovely topic! I was waiting for some interesting topic to engage myself and here is a question for you. Why do you think it's wrong to love your professor? Professors are people just like everyone else, right? When we like professors, we do not need to act on it, due to conflict of interest (while we are in school) and not to violate university policies, but loving and admiring is certainly not a sin or a mistake.

It's actually a beautiful feeling even if it is from a distance. We need more love in the world. Professors usually like to be visited in their offices. I had a friend of mine who used to be a professor and he told me that if nobody stops by his office, it did not feel good to him, because the most liked professors are usually visited often, because students love talking to them.

The feeling of closeness must have been very nice, isn't it? Sometimes that is hard to accomplish. We can't feel close to everyone. There is something that resonated within you. However, it's very difficult to know for sure and with 100% certainty that the other person feels close to us, the way we do. It's difficult to know what the other person is thinking or feeling with certainty. Maybe the other person does not even know. Sometimes people will act "as if" they feel somewhat close to us but they actually do not feel that, they just act that way because they are nice and social.

If she knows all of your obscure, specific interests and hobbies and she asks you about them, that can indicate that she is interested in who you are as a person, because there is a conversation going beyond school stuff, however, it's not unusual for professors to talk to students this way without having a romantic interest.

Sorry to hear about your first year of college, it must have been very tough for you. I am glad that your professor was there for you through all sorts of academic and emotional crisis. She always is willing to listen to you, she really understands you with no judgement. Some professors are good like that and some would not want to provide that type of support. You described how she made you feel so beautifully. It looks like you don't know for sure if she is nice to you because of you, or because she is aware that you have Asperger's. Professors are usually trained to detect students under your circumstances, but they are not professional psychologists to be able to determine that from just simply talking to students.

What a wonderful feeling, no one had ever treated you that way before and you couldn't help but to fall in love. Or at least you think it's love. Falling in love is, in my opinion, beyond someone's will. We can't make ourselves fall in love. There are people we want to fall in love but it does not happen with them. It happens with someone else. It sounds like you are unsure if you really fell in love or if this is an infatuation? So how do we know the difference?

Infatuation is more about falling in love due to a role, e.g ( professor, police officer, priest etc.) while falling in love is more about the physical attraction, spiritual attraction, intellectual attraction, emotional attraction outside of the role. Basically, would you like this person as much as you do now, if she isn't your professor? Try to imagine it. If yes, than you fell in love. If no, then it's just infatuation.

It sounds like you like to be in her presence. You pray that she'll sit near you. You like to sneak a deep look at her because she's so beautiful and just seeing her brings you a lot of comfort. This is emotional attraction. She makes you feel good, happy, and comfortable. So you are emotionally attracted to her. What about intellectual attraction, physical, spiritual? How compatible two of you would be? Was it love at first sight? When did you become aware that you like her romantically? Or was it something that developed after awhile?

As you said, realistically speaking, no you can not expect anything from professor while in school (in romantic sense). Professor can lose her job and if you really like her under no circumstances should you reveal your feelings, or add to such risk, and if she really likes you, under no circumstances she would put you in such risk, or reveal her feelings, while you are in school... and we should not interfere in anyone's marriage. Period.

There are 3 challenges in your situation at present time. 1) she is your professor, 2) she is unavailable ( married ) and 3) mutual compatibility is unknown. This is hard! You could have had someone else with no such obstacles. But, if you really like her that much, in order to overcome these obstacles, you need to graduate first and focus on your studies. After the graduation, you can asses the situation again and see how things are. Things in her life ( and your life ) may change, you never know. Then you have compatibility issue, but that is the very last step. You would need to know her first, to be able to figure that out.

It's great that you had the courage to speak of this experience in public forums. I hope you get more insights and please feel free to ask any question, if I can be of any help, I enjoy helping as much as my free time allows me.



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17 Apr 2017, 4:52 am

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What a wonderful feeling, no one had ever treated you that way before and you couldn't help but to fall in love. Or at least you think it's love. Falling in love is, in my opinion, beyond someone's will. We can't make ourselves fall in love. There are people we want to fall in love but it does not happen with them. It happens with someone else. It sounds like you are unsure if you really fell in love or if this is an infatuation? So how do we know the difference?

Infatuation is more about falling in love due to a role, e.g ( professor, police officer, priest etc.) while falling in love is more about the physical attraction, spiritual attraction, intellectual attraction, emotional attraction outside of the role. Basically, would you like this person as much as you do now, if she isn't your professor? Try to imagine it. If yes, than you fell in love. If no, then it's just infatuation.

It sounds like you like to be in her presence. You pray that she'll sit near you. You like to sneak a deep look at her because she's so beautiful and just seeing her brings you a lot of comfort. This is emotional attraction. She makes you feel good, happy, and comfortable. So you are emotionally attracted to her. What about intellectual attraction, physical, spiritual? How compatible two of you would be? Was it love at first sight? When did you become aware that you like her romantically? Or was it something that developed after awhile?


I disagree to that. Infatuation is the normal way to fall in love with somebody. It creates all these positive emotions in your brain, and you just can't stop thinking about the person. An infatuation cannot last forever, and it will typically vanish no later than after 2-3 years (at least for me). At that point, it has to be replaced with something more permanent, typically a strong bond (an attachment) that builds up because of the obsessive thoughts during the infatuation. The bond can also be built with regular sex if you bond like an NT.

The spiritual connection, when present, typically builds up during the infatuation, and especially if there is very sparse contact.



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17 Apr 2017, 7:45 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Shaggyfromscoobydoo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
This will be over when you leave school. You'll just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Crushes suck. There's this euphoria, but you know that it will come to nothing so there is this sadness too.

Try not to think about her. It's a difficult thing to do because the crush is a pleasant obsession, but we can control what we think about. So if you find your thoughts wandering to thinking about her, then force yourself to think about something else. Get engrossed in an activity you enjoy so that you can be distracted from thoughts of her.

It fades in time, but getting through the crush is difficult. I've been there.


I understand it would be unwise to ever try to pursue her but why should I try to forget about her? The crush I have on her brings me a lot of happiness as you described so why try to move on? I just don't get what the problem is with fantasizing. Also even when you take away the attraction I still have so much admiration and appreciation for her I would always like to spend time with her no matter what.

Because nothing lasting will come out of it..so probably best not to dwell. Once you are done taking her class its unlikely you will stay in contact. Perhaps she listens to all her students without being overly judgmental, how do you know its specifically you? But yeah that you cannot even see why it would be good to move on from the crush is concerning...I mean how do you plan to 'spend time with her no matter what' when you've moved on from that course? Fail the class repeatedly till she falls for you? This is why it's healthy to drop the crush, otherwise you might attempt embarrassing ways of winning her heart or something. And risk going from former student to weird stalker person that started as a student in a class she taught.....


I'm actually no longer a student in her class but I still see her frequently enough (at least once a week) because she's an advisor for one of my clubs. Also she's involved with a charity where I volunteer so I see her there as well. I know I'll at least see her on a regular basis until I graduate.



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17 Apr 2017, 7:50 am

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hurtloam wrote:
Aren't you asexual though? I find the frustration due to lack of sexual contact with the person I'm sexually attracted to to be very unpleasant. It just makes me feel despondent. I feel like I'm always going to be alone and I'm never going to find someone, why do I have to have to be tortured these unrequited, unfulfilled feelings that will go nowhere? It's torture to a non asexual.


Might be related to being asexual. I don't know. I generally have no desire to have sex with somebody I have a crush on, whether it is mutual or not really doesn't matter. A crush "kills" any sexual attraction there might be. I'm also not so concerned about the aspect of it leading somewhere. Actually, for me, the crush itself is sufficient to keep me happy. The only thing I wouldn't handle well is if my crush is dating somebody else, but that never happened since high school. At least not that I know of.


I'm not asexual but I will admit I don't feel the same type of sexual attraction towards her that I do girls my age. One reason is just because I admire her a lot. It's more like puppy love really. She isn't like a conquest or anything like that I just really appreciate who she is. Besides obviously sex will never be a factor in our relationship



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17 Apr 2017, 7:53 am

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I tend to side with you here, even if the chances of it to become mutual are slim. The reason is that I don't think you will get over the crush any quicker by pretending she doesn't exist. So either you enjoy the good feelings the crush gives you, which include thinking a lot about her, or you go the opposite way and build up hate against her. I think those are your only alternatives. Unless you find it likely that you will find another girl you like within a year or two, I think you should go with the former.


Why are those the only options? Is it not possible to let go of a crush without turning to bitterness?



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I tend to side with you here, even if the chances of it to become mutual are slim. The reason is that I don't think you will get over the crush any quicker by pretending she doesn't exist. So either you enjoy the good feelings the crush gives you, which include thinking a lot about her, or you go the opposite way and build up hate against her. I think those are your only alternatives. Unless you find it likely that you will find another girl you like within a year or two, I think you should go with the former.


Why are those the only options? Is it not possible to let go of a crush without turning to bitterness?


Some people may be able to do that, but I'm not.