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I have a handle AA, and I'm just practicing opening right now. My routine stack is pathetic, I have one opener and one neg. I need some more, any suggestions for this beginner.

Anyways, here the stack:

Opener: Hey, I have a quick question... The question is, do you floss before or after you brush?

Neg: Nice nails, are they real?

My reading regimen, is as follows. I don't have all the books yet, working on saving money for them. I also studying them, reading a chapter once per day for five days. The following week I move on to the next chapter.

The books I'm reading in order, first the books that I own.

The Game: Read back in 2009

Mystery Method: Currently studying it on chapter 5 right now, and I keep hearing this is one of the best books on pickup

Revelation: I do own it, yet I have to finish MM first.

Rules of the Game: I keep hearing this is a good compliment for MM.


Books I don't yet have yet, and this is your chance to tell me what not to buy.

Double your Dating: People tell me this is the best book for beginners, I mean a lot of people.

Magic Bullets: Another compliment for MM.

The Art of Seduction

Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion

The Red Queen

Anyways, those are the book I plan on internalizing, I want to get good at this game. Since I have no experience with getting girls, I don't know how long it will take me to get good enough to get a number close. It might take me a year, Judging from my social history. I might make another thread explaining my social history.

But anyways, I try to approach often, I can't get twelve approaches a day like I should. Where I live they are barely any Target Rich Venues. The best I can do is 4 a day, but that's a rarity. I say I average around 1.5 a day. I'm looking for quality venues, and I did find some OK venues. These venues have nothing but seated sets in them, from what I read in MM. The PUA who approaches a seated set will lose value the longer he works the set while standing, he has to sit with them to maintain a high value, or else the high value will degrade. I keep repeating this but I'm very new to this, so sitting down with a group of total strangers just irks me. I'm just working on opening the set and having a short conversation with them, then just leaving while saying thanks or some other words.

An example approach of mine at a Pizza joint:

(I'm not a PUA yet, I consider myself a RAFC.)

RAFC: *Runs the Floss opener*

Seated 2-Set: I do it after... I do it before.

RAFC: Well, it doesn't matter if you do it before or after.

Seated 2-Set: *I usually get various cold answers, like "Why?" or "OK, that's good to know... I guess."*

RAFC: *I guess I didn't hook the set, I'm leaving while saying "Thanks."*

That was example of most approaches at this pizza place I decided to practice day game. When I run the opener at a bar I sometimes go to I can actually hook some sets, and actually have a conversation with them. But the conversation usually lasts for like a minute, because I've always been bad at talking to people I don't know. I can't lead conversations at all with anybody at all.

I have a lot to work on...

Why would you ask a girl if she flosses before or after she brushes her teeth? The girl would think you're nuts.

I don't think any of these books you mention will help you find a girl.

And none of this PUA or whatever stuff, either.

Well both of those are terrible...I certainly would have been quite weirded out in my single days if a guy asked me 'do you floss before or after you brush' and probably want to get away from them asap before they start asking a bunch more weird questions about my personal hygiene. And I certainly would not have wanted to leave the bar or wherever with such a person. Also maybe just stick with nice nails...either they are fake and so they would find it to be a dumb question or they are real and they would be offended thinking you're being sarcastic or something.

I would say maybe you should just focus on human action than number games and what not...I mean do you want a relationship or just ways to get someone to have sex with? Because if you want the former you have to be a real person...not just some game player.

What kind of girl do you like?

What do you like to do in your spare time?

Well, I am looking for love and sex. I do like all types of girls, I can't pinpoint a single type that I like.

I love spending time watching YouTube and being alone. I really don't like being around people my age due to my history with people. I was bullied, I now have ptsd because of it. I'm misanthropic towards them.

The "can't get along with peers ones own age" trait is very strong for me.

So I guess my age range is 43-65 years, I like to call the cougar range.

Cougars, especially, like guys who don't act too much like "macho men." Younger women like that a little better, on average.

Some of them like to "take care" of guys. But not too much. Just a little.

I got bullied a lot to..but yeah my boyfriend is five years older....for some people an age difference can be positive. Like it kind of seems like me and my boyfriend already passed the worst of our early 20's and both work towards being a bit healthier and more responsible.

but yeah the main point is if you prefer to date older people that is perfectly ok...i mean I know there are plenty of cougars looking for younger guy. I mean for me more than 5 years older may be a bit unappealing but that is me, if you are attracted to older women then there is nothing wrong with that.

I've heard of most of these books. But they're all mid 2000's stuff. Words like "AFC", "neg", "Mystery", etc. No one uses them anymore. The most modern material out there today is Red Pill, which derives from and expands on PUA. It's all free online. I find it more useful, practical, and helpful than anything I spent money on in the decade prior.

Oh, and "Double Your Dating" is crap! I once owned it (PDF format), until my hard drive crashed, and I lost it. It tells you what to do, but not how to do it. To learn how, the author tells you to buy his CD's $200 or DVD's for $300. I bought the CD's, and they were inane and hard to follow. I also owned a few more obscure authors' e-books, which I also lost in the hard drive crash. Fortunately, I still have the paper books I bought.

Another thing I would recommend is reading women's "how to" books. It's like learning German during World War II.