Men Without Bachelor's Degree Not Marriage Material

Page 1 of 7 [ 104 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next

nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:03 am

Let the debate begin......... :mrgreen: This article says a lot of what I have been tooting my horn about.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/upsh ... nt=6&pgtyp


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

26 Sep 2017, 6:08 am

I was always "marriage material," even though I had no degree until 2006.

Women look at me the same now with a Bachelor's as they did previously.



b9
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2008
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,003
Location: australia

26 Sep 2017, 6:17 am

can't be bothered reading it.

i don't want to get married anyway.
i was the sole programmer for a company called "infohouse" which paid me handsomely.

i have my own house with nothing owing, and a great powerful car and enough money to do what i want.

so whatever....

i will never hitch myself to a woman because i don't like them enough.
(i certainly do not like men by the way).



The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

26 Sep 2017, 6:20 am

My theory on the future of marriage (distant future):
Then next it would be Master's degree, and next Doctorate degree, and next only men in top senior positions and so on- in other term, women's hypergamy will keep growing in correlation with inflation and life costs :mrgreen: yet keeping refusing the househusband role (under the pretext that men are 'lazy' in house chores yet most mothers make no effort to train little sons for such tasks) until at some point in the future marriage will become a defacto privilege only for a minority of men - that would eventually lead to polygyny, like most our mammal cousins in nature.

The harem marriage, or at least harem unwed relationships, will return to your culture, polygyny (not polygamy) will return to humanity and become the norm - like in the ancient Asian civilizations when marriage was a privilege only for elite men there; genetic diversity will decrease significantly and more powerful idiots will be born and rule the world. Bravo humans!



nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:35 am

Boo, are you still trying to find a house husband job? Is there even a degree in that? :mrgreen:


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:42 am

My reason for posting this article is because I believe the same : get an education, then job, then get married. I also believe it's a good idea to be married for a while before having kids.

All the guys can poo-poo the article and say it doesn't matter. However, the article points out that it's MEN who believe they should be the breadwinner and it's MEN who decide they shouldn't get married if they have a low paying job - per the article.

This article is also scientifically proven - which I thought would be something Aspies would believe more.


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


Last edited by nurseangela on 26 Sep 2017, 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

26 Sep 2017, 6:42 am

Is there a degree for housewivery?



The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

26 Sep 2017, 6:44 am

nurseangela wrote:
All the guys can poo-poo the article and say it doesn't matter. However, the article points out that it's MEN who believe they should be the breadwinner and it's MEN who decide they shouldn't get married if they have a low paying job - per the article.



It's because of WOMEN that MEN think like that. They keep hearing from WOMEN, how they wouldn't date men poorer than them.

Duh.



b9
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2008
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,003
Location: australia

26 Sep 2017, 6:46 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My theory on the future of marriage (distant future):
Then next it would be Master's degree, and next Doctorate degree, and next only men in top senior positions and so on- in other term, women's hypergamy will keep growing in correlation with inflation and life costs :mrgreen: yet keeping refusing the househusband role (under the pretext that men are 'lazy' in house chores yet most mothers make no effort to train little sons for such tasks) until at some point in the future marriage will become a defacto privilege only for a minority of men - that would eventually lead to polygyny, like most our mammal cousins in nature.

The harem marriage, or at least harem unwed relationships, will return to your culture, polygyny (not polygamy) will return to humanity and become the norm - like in the ancient Asian civilizations when marriage was a privilege only for elite men there. Bravo humans!


i am sorry i have had 4x375 ml bottles of beer and am hazy of cognition, but i will reply.
so a "bachelors" degree is the certificate one needs to be a true bachelor.

what is a "bachelor" ? it is someone who engages in bacchanalian pastimes..

what is a "master", it is a person qualified as a master of their desired profession (whether or not they attain it).

and a "doctor" is someone who can make decisions based upon evidence and availability of remedies.


so who cares?

the woman? if she is chosen by me to live in my life, then she will keep the house tidy, unless she abrogates that task.

what if i make $100 million from an idea, but have no formal education?

i still hold the strings.



The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

26 Sep 2017, 6:50 am

b9 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My theory on the future of marriage (distant future):
Then next it would be Master's degree, and next Doctorate degree, and next only men in top senior positions and so on- in other term, women's hypergamy will keep growing in correlation with inflation and life costs :mrgreen: yet keeping refusing the househusband role (under the pretext that men are 'lazy' in house chores yet most mothers make no effort to train little sons for such tasks) until at some point in the future marriage will become a defacto privilege only for a minority of men - that would eventually lead to polygyny, like most our mammal cousins in nature.

The harem marriage, or at least harem unwed relationships, will return to your culture, polygyny (not polygamy) will return to humanity and become the norm - like in the ancient Asian civilizations when marriage was a privilege only for elite men there. Bravo humans!


i am sorry i have had 4x375 ml bottles of beer and am hazy of cognition, but i will reply.
so a "bachelors" degree is the certificate one needs to be a true bachelor.

what is a "bachelor" ? it is someone who engages in bacchanalian pastimes..

what is a "master", it is a person qualified as a master of their desired profession (whether or not they attain it).

and a "doctor" is someone who can make decisions based upon evidence and availability of remedies.


so who cares?

the woman? if she is chosen by me to live in my life, then she will keep the house tidy, unless she abrogates that task.

what if i make $100 million from an idea, but have no formal education?

i still hold the strings.


You are right there, if someone makes loads of money without a formal education then so what - frankly most materials taken in formal educations are useless, except in very few majors like medical science.

However, I think they perceive a degree as potential for a good job, so it all goes down to money after all. I am sure that most wouldn't reject a rich man because he had no formal education.



nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:50 am

England had one.

https://moremeansbetter.wordpress.com/2 ... ousewives/


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:53 am

b9 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My theory on the future of marriage (distant future):
Then next it would be Master's degree, and next Doctorate degree, and next only men in top senior positions and so on- in other term, women's hypergamy will keep growing in correlation with inflation and life costs :mrgreen: yet keeping refusing the househusband role (under the pretext that men are 'lazy' in house chores yet most mothers make no effort to train little sons for such tasks) until at some point in the future marriage will become a defacto privilege only for a minority of men - that would eventually lead to polygyny, like most our mammal cousins in nature.

The harem marriage, or at least harem unwed relationships, will return to your culture, polygyny (not polygamy) will return to humanity and become the norm - like in the ancient Asian civilizations when marriage was a privilege only for elite men there. Bravo humans!


i am sorry i have had 4x375 ml bottles of beer and am hazy of cognition, but i will reply.
so a "bachelors" degree is the certificate one needs to be a true bachelor.

what is a "bachelor" ? it is someone who engages in bacchanalian pastimes..

what is a "master", it is a person qualified as a master of their desired profession (whether or not they attain it).

and a "doctor" is someone who can make decisions based upon evidence and availability of remedies.


so who cares?

the woman? if she is chosen by me to live in my life, then she will keep the house tidy, unless she abrogates that task.

what if i make $100 million from an idea, but have no formal education?

i still hold the strings.


Yet, you're spending your time responding to this thread.


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

26 Sep 2017, 6:54 am

nurseangela wrote:


Wtf, so when they graduate to what kind of jobs they apply for? :lmao:



nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 6:59 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:


Wtf, so when they graduate to what kind of jobs they apply for? :lmao:


Dude, you asked if there have been any housewivery degrees and I found one - it just happened to be before the feminist movement.


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

26 Sep 2017, 7:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
b9 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
My theory on the future of marriage (distant future):
Then next it would be Master's degree, and next Doctorate degree, and next only men in top senior positions and so on- in other term, women's hypergamy will keep growing in correlation with inflation and life costs :mrgreen: yet keeping refusing the househusband role (under the pretext that men are 'lazy' in house chores yet most mothers make no effort to train little sons for such tasks) until at some point in the future marriage will become a defacto privilege only for a minority of men - that would eventually lead to polygyny, like most our mammal cousins in nature.

The harem marriage, or at least harem unwed relationships, will return to your culture, polygyny (not polygamy) will return to humanity and become the norm - like in the ancient Asian civilizations when marriage was a privilege only for elite men there. Bravo humans!


i am sorry i have had 4x375 ml bottles of beer and am hazy of cognition, but i will reply.
so a "bachelors" degree is the certificate one needs to be a true bachelor.

what is a "bachelor" ? it is someone who engages in bacchanalian pastimes..

what is a "master", it is a person qualified as a master of their desired profession (whether or not they attain it).

and a "doctor" is someone who can make decisions based upon evidence and availability of remedies.


so who cares?

the woman? if she is chosen by me to live in my life, then she will keep the house tidy, unless she abrogates that task.

what if i make $100 million from an idea, but have no formal education?

i still hold the strings.

women are just attention sinks and they always want to be paid attention to, and i can not be bothered.


You are right there, if someone makes loads of money without a formal education then so what - frankly most materials taken in formal educations are useless, except in very few majors like medical science.

However, I think they perceive a degree as potential for a good job, so it all goes down to money after all. I am sure that most wouldn't reject a rich man because he had no formal education.


I disagree.

Example: I was watching Dr. Drew Rehab celebrity edition. There was this one guy on there who was rich beyond belief, BUT was in severe depression, had tried suicide multiple times and ended up on that show because he was hooked on drugs and alcohol. If money was all that mattered, why could he not find a relationship that would last?

If money was all that mattered, the above guy would have no problems and would have been married. You say that the degree doesn't matter, but it does. The article points out that people with education "think" differently and "plan" differently. They tend to plan out how they want their life to work instead of just living life and accepting what happens.


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


hurtloam
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,747
Location: Eyjafjallajökull

26 Sep 2017, 7:23 am

I know loads of married blokes who don't have any sort of college or university education.

Level of education has never been a priority to me. I've never thought, he must have a degree or I won't even notice him.

Wealthiest guy I know out of my friends husbands used his natural intelligence and built up his own company. No qualifications.

Conversely I know a guy with a degree who is doing work you don't need a degree for.

I have family with no qualifications who earn more than me.