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31 Oct 2017, 5:12 am

Go to 4:45. More women are being honest. I congratulate her for her honesty. The redpill has gone mainstream in the last year. Women are avoidant and denialist by nature and all of their real communication is implicit, not explicitly spoken.

I've said things on this forum that would've got me banned 2 to 3 years ago. The reason why this stuff isn't publicized is because mankind wants to lead people into complacency and unawareness. Knowledge is a currency. And the richer you are of it, again, the more pressures you are capable of putting people under. It scares them. Disseminating truth is bad for good looking men and women. It's better if people just put unattractive men on the fairy brick road.

It's deliberate it's not unintentional that this s**t is hard to be spoken of.



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31 Oct 2017, 5:19 am

Being attracted to someone makes it easy to overlook any faults.



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31 Oct 2017, 5:27 am

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Being attracted to someone makes it easy to overlook any faults.



And the bar for men to be considered attractive in appearance is much higher than that of a woman. Something a lot of people get uneasy about when you mention it because it's seen as sexist.

Most people will just lash out at you.


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31 Oct 2017, 5:40 am

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And the bar for men to be considered attractive in appearance is much higher than that of a woman.

That's clearly not true. Take body hair shaving, make-up, high heels, tight fitting clothes, face creams, push-up bras, long painted nails, all of the comments on here and in society in general about fat women. There's adverts on TV telling me I should be worried about having dry skin on my heels for goodness' sake!


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31 Oct 2017, 5:43 am

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And the bar for men to be considered attractive in appearance is much higher than that of a woman.

That's clearly not true. Take body hair shaving, make-up, high heels, tight fitting clothes, face creams, push-up bras, long painted nails, all of the comments on here and in society in general about fat women. There's adverts on TV telling me I should be worried about having dry skin on my heels for goodness' sake!


Can't say I know too many men who are all that fussed about women having dry skin on their heels.



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31 Oct 2017, 5:50 am

It's not just the opinions of men, it's pressure from society in general for women to look "perfect". TV shows, magazines, films, games, adverts. Women are often seen as only valuable for their looks and once you get too old...

Not saying that this isn't becoming a problem for men too, just that women have had it worse and for much longer.


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31 Oct 2017, 5:53 am

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And the bar for men to be considered attractive in appearance is much higher than that of a woman.


:lol: That's adorable.



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31 Oct 2017, 6:01 am

My point is that I beleive it is a lot harder for men to reach standards of convential attractiveness than it is for women. people refute this, especially women. But I think womens problems with their own looks comes from pressures from other women, not from men. I mean women think "all men want supermodels" which isn't true at all.

I will elaborate.

I mean, guys find a whole host of girls attractive or "doable", be it thin girls, skinny girls, chubby girls, BBW girls, short girls, tall girls, blondes, redheads, brunettes, raven heads, small butts, big butts, small boobs, big boobs, long hair, short hair, strong jaws, weak jaws, muscular women, underdevleoped child-sized women, ethnic, young girl, cougar, nerdy girls with glasses and braces etc etc. No womans "look" go's undesired, except maybe the very old, overweight or morbidly obese. Even then a fat woman can have full control over her attractiveness by losing weight. The media message is quite simple to women: "don't be fat" and you'll have a line of guys wanting to date you. I really believe this to be true from observing it in my own life.

If only it was as simple as "don't be fat" for men to be physcially attractive.

But for men that simply doesn't happen and you know it. To women there is only one perfect looking man they lust after. It is the media-promulgated aesthetic ideal: tall, muscular, broad shouldered, great hair, chiseled masculine face with a strong jaw and good bone structure. Guys like Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill and the late Paul Walker. Mostly its about a guys bones, particularly the face.

I see it all the time: women jump at the chance to get the attention of men that look like that. They can't help themselves. Especially women of breeding age.

If your a man of low attractiveness and far away from that media-promulgated ideal, such as Rick Moranis, Danny De Vito, Tim Kazurinsky, or Franke Muniz, your considered physically unattractive, 'creepy' and loser-ish.


I cannot help but feel angry that people fail to see this.


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31 Oct 2017, 6:27 am

Sometime World wrote:
My point is that I beleive it is a lot harder for men to reach standards of convential attractiveness than it is for women. people refute this, especially women. But I think womens problems with their own looks comes from pressures from other women, not from men. I mean women think "all men want supermodels" which isn't true at all.

I will elaborate.

I mean, guys find a whole host of girls attractive or "doable", be it thin girls, skinny girls, chubby girls, BBW girls, short girls, tall girls, blondes, redheads, brunettes, raven heads, small butts, big butts, small boobs, big boobs, long hair, short hair, strong jaws, weak jaws, muscular women, underdevleoped child-sized women, ethnic, young girl, cougar, nerdy girls with glasses and braces etc etc. No womans "look" go's undesired, except maybe the very old, overweight or morbidly obese. Even then a fat woman can have full control over her attractiveness by losing weight. The media message is quite simple to women: "don't be fat" and you'll have a line of guys wanting to date you. I really believe this to be true from observing it in my own life.

If only it was as simple as "don't be fat" for men to be physcially attractive.

But for men that simply doesn't happen and you know it. To women there is only one perfect looking man they lust after. It is the media-promulgated aesthetic ideal: tall, muscular, broad shouldered, great hair, chiseled masculine face with a strong jaw and good bone structure. Guys like Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill and the late Paul Walker. Mostly its about a guys bones, particularly the face.

I see it all the time: women jump at the chance to get the attention of men that look like that. They can't help themselves. Especially women of breeding age.

If your a man of low attractiveness and far away from that media-promulgated ideal, such as Rick Moranis, Danny De Vito, Tim Kazurinsky, or Franke Muniz, your considered physically unattractive, 'creepy' and loser-ish.


I cannot help but feel angry that people fail to see this.



Oh, darn... I guess I have to reply to the 10 or so men who messaged me today and say, "Sorry, you can't be attracted to me because I'm visibly overweight, even though I've made it extremely clear in my dating profile.". :( What a shame...

Also, I would totally prefer someone who looked like Frankie Muniz over a Channing Tatum clone any day (assuming said Frankie Muniz look-alike had an awesome personality and mind, too).



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31 Oct 2017, 6:37 am

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Sometime World wrote:
My point is that I beleive it is a lot harder for men to reach standards of convential attractiveness than it is for women. people refute this, especially women. But I think womens problems with their own looks comes from pressures from other women, not from men. I mean women think "all men want supermodels" which isn't true at all.

I will elaborate.

I mean, guys find a whole host of girls attractive or "doable", be it thin girls, skinny girls, chubby girls, BBW girls, short girls, tall girls, blondes, redheads, brunettes, raven heads, small butts, big butts, small boobs, big boobs, long hair, short hair, strong jaws, weak jaws, muscular women, underdevleoped child-sized women, ethnic, young girl, cougar, nerdy girls with glasses and braces etc etc. No womans "look" go's undesired, except maybe the very old, overweight or morbidly obese. Even then a fat woman can have full control over her attractiveness by losing weight. The media message is quite simple to women: "don't be fat" and you'll have a line of guys wanting to date you. I really believe this to be true from observing it in my own life.

If only it was as simple as "don't be fat" for men to be physcially attractive.

But for men that simply doesn't happen and you know it. To women there is only one perfect looking man they lust after. It is the media-promulgated aesthetic ideal: tall, muscular, broad shouldered, great hair, chiseled masculine face with a strong jaw and good bone structure. Guys like Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill and the late Paul Walker. Mostly its about a guys bones, particularly the face.

I see it all the time: women jump at the chance to get the attention of men that look like that. They can't help themselves. Especially women of breeding age.

If your a man of low attractiveness and far away from that media-promulgated ideal, such as Rick Moranis, Danny De Vito, Tim Kazurinsky, or Franke Muniz, your considered physically unattractive, 'creepy' and loser-ish.


I cannot help but feel angry that people fail to see this.



Oh, darn... I guess I have to reply to the 10 or so men who messaged me today and say, "Sorry, you can't be attracted to me because I'm visibly overweight, even though I've made it extremely clear in my dating profile.". :( What a shame...

Also, I would totally prefer someone who looked like Frankie Muniz over a Channing Tatum clone any day (assuming said Frankie Muniz look-alike had an awesome personality and mind, too).



Why does Frankie Muniz need an awesome personality and mind? Are you awesome? You put it as though Frankie needs to be awesome to 'compensate' for his lack of looks. But what is 'bad' about his looks? Too unmanly in skeletal formation?

And why would Frankie Muniz want an overweight lady when he likes jogging and looks pretty lean? Surely men that look after themselves expect the same in women.

Doesn't mean no men like fatter women, there's just fewer of them. However far fewer women like fat men than men like fat women, from my life experiences.

And would a fat or overweight man get 10 women or so a day message him on dating sites? Not a chance.

So who has it easier to form relationships or certainly find willing partners? Tell me. And what does it tell you? It tells me men are far less fussy about flaws.


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31 Oct 2017, 6:46 am

Women probably only feel pressure about their looks from other women because they've seen how much more attention their better looking friends get from men. Why would you put pressure on your competition to look better?

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Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill and the late Paul Walker

Never heard of any of these guys (except Hugh Jackman) so I looked them up and none of them really do anything for me although I can see that they are "attractive".

Always thought Rick Moranis was quite sexy though so maybe I'm just an odd one!

You're saying it isn't true that "all men want supermodels" whilst also saying "To women there is only one perfect looking man they lust after". That's not true either. Of the few boyfriends I've had they've varied between really tall, as short as me, dark hair, blone hair, ginger hair, bald, quite fat, really skinny, white, black, my age, quite a bit older than me. Although I do consider myself to be nonbinary so this isn't the opinion of a regular "woman".


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31 Oct 2017, 6:52 am

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That's clearly not true. Take body hair shaving, make-up, high heels, tight fitting clothes, face creams, push-up bras, long painted nails, all of the comments on here and in society in general about fat women. There's adverts on TV telling me I should be worried about having dry skin on my heels for goodness' sake!


Some of those things make women look less attractive.
High heels and long painted nails make a woman look like a drag queen.


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31 Oct 2017, 7:02 am

I agree about that being less attractive, I'd much prefer a tomboy any day :)


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31 Oct 2017, 7:05 am

Maybe it is harder for women to keep up with these beauty standards but they're not required for them to be attractive to men.

When women wear painful high heels or have little pictures painted on their nails, it's all about competing with other women.

Women's beauty standards are set by other women. So they should stop blaming them on men.


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31 Oct 2017, 7:06 am

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Why does Frankie Muniz need an awesome personality and mind? Are you awesome? You put it as though Frankie needs to be awesome to 'compensate' for his lack of looks. But what is 'bad' about his looks? Too unmanly in skeletal formation?

And why would Frankie Muniz want an overweight lady when he likes jogging and looks pretty lean? Surely men that look after themselves expect the same in women.

Doesn't mean no men like fatter women, there's just fewer of them. However far fewer women like fat men than men like fat women, from my life experiences.


You may want to take a look at what I wrote again. I said specifically that I physically prefer someone who looked more like Frankie Muniz than someone who looked like Channing Tatum. Then, in parenthesis, I added that I would want them to have an awesome personality and mind, too (meaning "in addition to the looks I already like").

This is the fun part: "awesome" means different things to different people. In my case, an "awesome personality and mind" would mean someone who's got a sense of humor and who's slightly awkward and possessing an actual brain capable of abstract thought. I love to have intellectual discussions about many different topics with a potential partner, and I consider it a dealbreaker if they aren't capable or aren't interested in doing that. However, that thing that I personally don't like may be the definition of "awesome" to someone else.

Do I think I'm awesome? Of course. I found it's just way better to like who I am than to hate myself for my differences. Does that mean other people have to agree with me? Not at all!

Your life experiences aren't universal. I had an acquaintance back in high school who was considered by a lot of guys to be "a perfect 10". She was blond, beautiful, sweet, a petite dancer, and had aspirations of being in the medical field. A few years ago, she got married- to someone who was overweight and had been his entire life. Some people made jokes about it, wondering what she saw in him. Obviously, he was her type. She didn't marry him for money or status, and she posts pictures of them all the time on social media where she brags about him.



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31 Oct 2017, 7:22 am

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Women's beauty standards are set by other women. So they should stop blaming them on men.

On the other hand, try walking down the street as a woman with hairy legs and see what men think. Or even worse, hairy armpits!


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