I think it's all about the Tomboy girls

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04 Sep 2012, 3:50 pm

I did my time with a very sweet, very pretty, very smart princess type chick.....we did well for a while, but it ended bad. MEANWHILE, these days, as I look at some of the girls I've been friends with, or girls I find myself attracted to in terms of personality, most of them are tomboy types..... like..... way less outwardly dramatic, more intellectual and or spiritual but on a more private level, (naughtier perhaps) and even more loyal than a "princess" type. (In my experience, the princesses will drop you once you're not taking care of them properly, which is a totally different discussion, and it's sometimes understandable) I couldn't take care of my ex wife financially, I appeared to have no power, and at the same time, she couldn't take care of me intellectually, she wasn't dumb, she just wasn't into that kind of shite.

Perhaps tomboy=female aspie? and maybe I've yet to experience the difficulties in that kind of relationship (I did date a girl who must be OCD/ADD/or AS She was this cute Goth princess who was just one of the guys, oddball too, I remember she couldn't be touched when we slept.....I hated that)

And perhaps Tomboys like to be passive at times and dominating at other times.....maybe there would be more of a struggle for power in the relationship. But I bet that would be interesting....

I think I'm thinking out loud here.....


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04 Sep 2012, 4:19 pm

Yes, Tomboys are great. I've never had a girlfriend before but all of the girls I've fallen for have been fairly tomboyish. Maybe its the confidence that they usually have. I have a friend (not sure whether we're still friends) but she would act just like a boy in so many ways. She had a male style of humor (the way guys push each other around and harass one another in a friendly way.) She was competitive and arrogant in the way that many men are. I found her very charming, especially how protective she was over her girlfriend, and yes she was a lesbian, so I had no chance with her to begin with.

I also prefer somewhat androgynous clothing, hairstyles, and voices.



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04 Sep 2012, 4:28 pm

Iloveshoujoai wrote:
Yes, Tomboys are great. I've never had a girlfriend before but all of the girls I've fallen for have been fairly tomboyish. Maybe its the confidence that they usually have. I have a friend (not sure whether we're still friends) but she would act just like a boy in so many ways. She had a male style of humor (the way guys push each other around and harass one another in a friendly way.) She was competitive and arrogant in the way that many men are. I found her very charming, especially how protective she was over her girlfriend, and yes she was a lesbian, so I had no chance with her to begin with.

I also prefer somewhat androgynous clothing, hairstyles, and voices.


I've noticed the male style humor which is very cool. I tend to have a potty mouth and get pretty low brow, and I currently have a friend who's a total tomboy, and she can play right along.

And yeah, the Androgynous thing is strangely attractive. I mean, I love the pretty dresses, but some girls have such a cool way to make tomboy girly, I dunno if that makes sense, but...I knew a tomboy type girl who was trying to "be more girly" in her own words, and it was super cute how she balanced it out.

Multiple times I've know girls who express their "girliness" with a kind of toned down gothic/Nightmare Before Christmas/Tim Burton kind of style which I always think is super cute.....there's a little darkness to them....


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04 Sep 2012, 4:44 pm

Yup, I have been smitten by a few as well. I like opinionated women who speak their mind but also like them to have a touch of melancholy and intellectualism to them as well.


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04 Sep 2012, 6:09 pm

knowbody15 wrote:
... the Androgynous thing is strangely attractive. I mean, I love the pretty dresses, but some girls have such a cool way to make tomboy girly, I dunno if that makes sense, but...I knew a tomboy type girl who was trying to "be more girly" in her own words, and it was super cute how she balanced it out.


Makes plenty of sense. Any person, man or woman, who has considerable control over their whims, their moods, and what they really want [1] is absolutely BAD-ASS. When it's someone to whom one is inclined to be attracted, this sort of self-awareness is very attractive.

[1] As opposed to what society teaches to be the correct "movement" in the play that is life.



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04 Sep 2012, 9:02 pm

I always thought guys found us unattractive and boring, well there you go. I am a tomboy but most people I know say I'm just unfeminine and sort of feral with a deep and monotone voice. Or a man. I know whether I like someone if they make me act girly.


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04 Sep 2012, 9:28 pm

I've been referred to as a tomboy...and I suppose it fits. But yeah I just never really cared about girly stuff, and still don't. It seems more often than not though guys prefer more feminine chicks(yes I call people dudes and chicks), but honestly I could never figure out why I mean I'd think a lot of guys would get bored with that and want a girl who will watch action type movies with them rather then trying to get them to watch boring dramas....go to rock and metal concerts, drink beer with them and that sort of thing.

But maybe for some guys they prefer the contrast of being the masculine one with a feminine girlfriend.


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04 Sep 2012, 9:50 pm

There quite a "no more princesses" movement building out there... There's nothing wrong with the "refined" type... but the self-obsessed "you'll do what I say because I'm the princess" girl is becoming loathed by everyone except the guys who are just as bad and/or only care about how pretty someone is.

Maybe it's not so much about tomboys as it is anti-princess... I know that's how *I* feel!



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04 Sep 2012, 10:02 pm

tomboy=double-standard

A guy acting very feminine is usually viewed as unacceptable.



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04 Sep 2012, 10:31 pm

Venger wrote:
tomboy=double-standard

A guy acting very feminine is usually viewed as unacceptable.

Says who? I've met and seen plenty of "meterosexuals" if that's even the right word anymore. :lol:
Most seem to get on great with both men and women.
In japan a somewhat effeminate man is even preferred by women.


I for one have never been attracted to a "pretty princess" aside from physically of course.
I dislike makeup for the most part and overly girly things, as well as self entitled, spoiled princesses.

Pull your hair back, throw on some jean and a tshirt, that's sexy.
Spending 40 minutes curling your hair, plucking your eyebrows, picking out the "perfect" dress to go with that top, then being late for our date because of that and expecting me to do everything for you is not remotely sexy.



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04 Sep 2012, 10:35 pm

Venger wrote:
tomboy=double-standard

A guy acting very feminine is usually viewed as unacceptable.


It shouldn't be....


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04 Sep 2012, 11:13 pm

I haven't had the chance to get into a relationship with a tomboy. I do like the thought of being in one with a tomboy though, maybe they would be more fun. Kind of like hanging with the dudes so to speak.


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04 Sep 2012, 11:40 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
....go to rock and metal concerts, drink beer with them and that sort of thing.


But most guys I do this with are my bros (not my brother, but guy friends who are like my brothers if you get my drift), and even if I do have feelings for them to them I'm just their bro. *sigh*

Feminine guys unacceptable? I don't think so. Lots of feminine guys where I live and no one cares. I have a lot of "hippie" friends and those guys wear flowy clothes, have long hair, hug everyone, and no one says something to them cause they're feminine. Nothing wrong with hippie guys, metrosexual guys, muso/theatre guys, more "feminine" appearing nerdy guys, or gays who act effeminate, and no one should be discriminating on the basis of them being effeminate.


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05 Sep 2012, 3:24 am

I'm pretty tomboyish, particularly in the way that I think. And guys seem to appreciate/admire that about me. It usually equates to less drama, low-maintenance, all that cool stuff that guys usually dig.



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05 Sep 2012, 3:29 am

Venger wrote:
tomboy=double-standard

A guy acting very feminine is usually viewed as unacceptable.

What do you mean by tomboy=double-standard? Do you mean a girl who is a tomboy has double-standards? Or a guy who likes tomboys has double-standards? I'm confused.

A tomboy usually can't help being that way, so I don't think it says anything about their standards.

If someone values the qualities in a girl that makes her tomboyish, then of course they are probably less likely to value the qualities that make a guy feminine. I don't see it as a double-standard, just a preference.

I've clearly missed your point I think!

(To me, a double-standard would be to want your girlfriend to be tomboyish because you don't like princesses, but then insist on acting "princessy" yourself. Something like that.)



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05 Sep 2012, 5:33 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Venger wrote:
tomboy=double-standard

A guy acting very feminine is usually viewed as unacceptable.

What do you mean by tomboy=double-standard? Do you mean a girl who is a tomboy has double-standards? Or a guy who likes tomboys has double-standards? I'm confused.



I meant a guy that acts/dresses like a female is usually considered abnormal by mainstream society, but a girl that acts/dresses like a male(tomboy) is usually considered normal and accepted.

For example, if a man carries a woman's "purse" around in a busy public area he would likely get taunted and laughed at almost immediately.