Fuzzyair wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
What exactly are "haters? I hear that term used a lot but apparently it doesn't mean what I thought it meant.
You know it's funny but I've never known what "haters" are either
. I assume it's people who onpurposely go on at you, like for instance going on at you if you get back with your ex. I don't know though
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I classify haters as two different types of people.
One kind of hate is completely irrational. Mighty be driven by jealousy, might be something else. In any case, you ignore these people because no amount of effort will make these people happy.
The other kind of hate stems something you have done that fails to meet expectations. You want to make friends with these haters because they will give feedback and constructive criticism to help you.
In our context, L&D folks might attract a lot of hate by asking for advice and making endless excuses, or if someone says something is a bad idea, you do it anyway, and come back and you can’t understand why you got hurt, and then you lash out at people who don’t tell you what you want to hear.
Wrt going back to an ex: My wife were on/off for the first few years we were dating. She’s not a bad person.
What happened was I’d been in an abusive, toxic relationship for a number of years. This girl and I broke up, but she kept pursuing me. She knew how to work her magic and from time to time we’d end up having sex. She’d tell everyone we were getting back together, so I went no-contact on her.
Meanwhile, I was bouncing around 3 other girls, including my wife, and we ended up starting a relationship. After college, we went our separate ways, TRIED to do LDR and sucked at it. I’d been with a couple of women when I was in New York, and she dated a few other guys during that time. But she’d become my best friend, we never stopped talking. I mean, seriously, I’d kick my gf out of my dorm room when I knew she was going to call! And she’d get jealous, too. One time I was on a road trip with some guys, and one of them called out my gf’s name when it was HER...and she got PISSED.
After I came home, we both just got tired of the bs from distance dating and our feelings for each other vs. sleeping with anyone but each other.
We struggled early in our marriage, but we made it. It was weird because for over half our relationship we were over 1,000 miles apart, seeing other people, and after our first year dating we weren’t even in the same town. And I’d had doubts because I’d been in love with this girl I’d known since high school. We started dating after I dumped the first girl I talkes about, broke up, got back together, and as I was getting ready to leave I gave up on her and stayed with Best Friend. So Best Friend and I had a good run about 6 months or so before I was gone for 2 years. All of that came back in the first two years of marriage, plus kids, plus mortgage, plus job insecurity, plus other guys trying to get in her pants, plus her friends gossiping about me, plus, plus, plus... At this point, nobody is questioning our staying power. We’ve been together almost 20 years now.
I’m not going to be a hypocrite and say NEVER go back to an ex. I wouldn’t be married to my best friend if I hadn’t.
But I will say that it generally isn’t a good idea. I got out of a toxic relationship and didn’t totally cut her off, which was a bad idea because she wouldn’t stop chasing me. Best Friend and I kept breaking up because I really didn’t know what I wanted. Didn’t mean she was a bad person or incompatible. Just meant I needed to figure out some things for myself. Most of the time people break up for good reason. And because people don’t fundamentally change, the old problems that caused the breakups aren’t going away. I would advise IN GENERAL not to go back to an ex. Don’t fool yourself into thinking “but this time is different.” It never is. My wife and I aren’t different; we just took control over our circumstances once we BOTH decided we were right for each other (she knew before I did), and I became more assured that she was who I wanted to be with all along. If you can’t say you broke up while things were good, or maybe you just weren’t in a place you could commit to that person right then, and especially if the relationship was toxic or even abusive, you shouldn’t get back together. You broke up for a reason. Move on. Be happy.