Why don't women ask out men?

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24 Dec 2018, 2:52 pm

I've never been asked by a woman and don't know any man who has. Is there some reason that women don't like asking out men? The men have to ask out the women.



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24 Dec 2018, 2:56 pm

It's because that's what many societies dictate as a "procedure" for courtship.

Women do ask men out---but that's a relatively rare phenomenon.

I don't mind doing the "asking out" myself; I would feel uncomfortable if a woman asked me out. It's only happened to me once.



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24 Dec 2018, 3:04 pm

It's traditional for a man to ask out a woman.
It goes back to the days when women rarely had their own means and were regarded as chattel, more or less, so had no rights of their own and had to wait for a man to pay his addresses.
However, women do ask out men these days, but not as often as the other way around.


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24 Dec 2018, 3:51 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's because that's what many societies dictate as a "procedure" for courtship.

Women do ask men out---but that's a relatively rare phenomenon.

I don't mind doing the "asking out" myself; I would feel uncomfortable if a woman asked me out. It's only happened to me once.
My 1st girlfriend was an online friend before she told me she liked me & I realized I liked her after she told me. My current girlfriend which is my 3rd sent me a PM after reading lots of my posts. Those were the only times I had a woman make a move on me online that wasn't a scam. I had women make moves on me 2wice offline but the 1st time was when I was in the relationship with my 1st girlfriend & the girl only offered me sex. She was slu*ty(I'm NOT saying that cuz she offered me sex but she dressed like a slut & she had sex with lots of people from what I heard) I think she felt sorry for me. The other time I had a strange girl ask me if I had a girlfriend two weeks before my 2nd girlfriend dumped me & the girl who asked seemed disappointed. I think she had just broken up with someone from the conservation I overheard her having. Why couldn't it of happened two weeks after my 2nd girlfriend broke up with me instead of two weeks before :cry: I think she liked the way I looked at the time.
I felt slightly uncomfortable those times but I felt aLOT more uncomfortable all the times I made a move on women even if it was online. A woman making a move on me feels aLOT more natural than me making the move.


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24 Dec 2018, 3:54 pm

In japan they do


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24 Dec 2018, 4:23 pm

That's interesting, Nick. You were luckier than me :wink:

I was shy to the point of stuttering and asking girls indirectly....like saying: "There's a movie playing at (whatever theatre); would you like to go with me?

Still....somehow, I don't feel comfortable with women making the first move.



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24 Dec 2018, 6:10 pm

I don't think it's about questions. Dialog is way more important.


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24 Dec 2018, 6:24 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Still....somehow, I don't feel comfortable with women making the first move.


I'm quite assertive. I'd rather find out now rather than later, but I find men don't really like me asking them out directly.

Group activities seem to be ok. But if I tell them I want more than friendship or ask how they feel about me (I haven't done it in a long time I can't remember how I phrased it) they don't seem to like it.

I feel like I'm robbing them of something they would've done if they were ready or actually interested.



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24 Dec 2018, 7:06 pm

Arganger wrote:
In japan they do


It's the first time I hear that.

Even though, Moroccan women are known to make the first move (personal experience).



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24 Dec 2018, 10:11 pm

I want to move to Japan.


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24 Dec 2018, 10:17 pm

phuq tradition. :|



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25 Dec 2018, 6:54 pm

Because quite frankly, women don't need to ask out a man to get a date, a man is likely to end up asking them out at some stage, whereas men need to ask out women to get a date or most often go single. I think there might be a biological component to it.

When women do ask men out, it tends to be high-value men, men that she probably assumes aren't going to ask her out, or someone who really piques her interest. Average guys or lower will rarely be asked out unless maybe it's by a woman of lower value than them who no gius ask out.



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25 Dec 2018, 7:37 pm

The custom of men asking women for dates (and rarely vice-versa) may also arise from the fact that women earn less money than men for equal work, coupled with the Western custom that the person who asks for the date is the person who pays for the date. This may make women reluctant to ask for a date, knowing that they will have less money left after the date than a man working the same job.

By the way, there is such a thing as a "Pity Date", where a person dates someone they are not attracted to only because they feel sorry for that other person's unattractiveness, poverty, or lack of self-esteem.



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25 Dec 2018, 8:12 pm

Considering the fact that discrimination based on sex is illegal, women getting paid less for equal work is not true.


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25 Dec 2018, 8:15 pm

Shinku Tora wrote:
Considering the fact that discrimination based on sex is illegal, women getting paid less for equal work is not true.
It's understandable why a man would perpetuate the myth of "Equal pay for equal work" as the normal state of employment (instead of merely the ideal) for both men and women.



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25 Dec 2018, 9:41 pm

Shinku Tora wrote:
Considering the fact that discrimination based on sex is illegal, women getting paid less for equal work is not true.

It may be illegal in many places, but it does happen. Trust me. It happened to me and I’m certain has happened, and continues to happen.