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25 Jul 2019, 7:17 am

My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.



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25 Jul 2019, 9:05 am

Let’s make a pie char:
How many hours he works per day?

How many hours you work per day (job+housework) ?



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25 Jul 2019, 9:11 am

Relationships shouldn't work like that.

I'm not going to create a pie chart----nor a prenuptual agreement.

I think the guy is being a petty twit----if you want to know my opinion. Why can't he pick up after himself? Why can't there be a situation where, sometimes, he does more; and, sometimes, you do more?

When a relationship gets to the "tit for tat" stage-----then it's sort of time to move on. But I know that would be difficult because of your financial situation.



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25 Jul 2019, 9:23 am

Some of the traits of an Aspie are:
* shows a lack of empathy (difficulty understanding others’ feelings, difficulty communicating feelings)
* unaware of others’ thoughts, feelings, desires, intentions or perceptions resulting in inadvertently appearing rude or inconsiderate.

Another trait is that they communicate better in writing than verbally.

So I would recommend that you put down your feelings in written form, with an element similar to a love letter, and describe how you feel, that you feel you are being taken advantage off and that accommodations are needed if this relationship is to survive.


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25 Jul 2019, 9:52 am

I hope that would work---the letter---but I sense that the guy is really overly confident in himself. He seems to know that she is dependent upon him. And he's milking it for all it's worth.

Which is not a good situation for the OP at all.

What sort of work do you do, OP?



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25 Jul 2019, 11:23 am

A pie chart would not work. He works for himself so he thinks answering emails in bed is working so therefore he works harder than I do. I’m a dental Nurse. I can leave if necessary but I’d like to try and compromise but if no compromise is possible I will leave. He is very confident and repeatedly tells me he doesn’t need anyone people are a choice not a necessity. Just all feels a bit hopeless. Maybe I should just leave.



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25 Jul 2019, 11:55 am

Kimblesblue wrote:
My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.


So... I gotta say, this guy sounds like he's got it made. He has someone to share bills with, a maid, and someone he can have sex with when he wants on his terms. The fact that he's not willing to compromise is not surprising - what would be his motivation? He's been getting what he wants so far.

To be honest, if I were you when he says "Maybe you should go back to your mum's," I would probably take him up on that and do it. He doesn't sound like he wants a partner, he just wants someone around for his convenience.

You say you love him, but... what is it that you love about him? Because honestly he sounds a bit like an ass.


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25 Jul 2019, 12:05 pm

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My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.


So... I gotta say, this guy sounds like he's got it made. He has someone to share bills with, a maid, and someone he can have sex with when he wants on his terms. The fact that he's not willing to compromise is not surprising - what would be his motivation? He's been getting what he wants so far.

To be honest, if I were you when he says "Maybe you should go back to your mum's," I would probably take him up on that and do it. He doesn't sound like he wants a partner, he just wants someone around for his convenience.

You say you love him, but... what is it that you love about him? Because honestly he sounds a bit like an ass.


While you're not mistaken in most what you wrote there, but you always stereotype sex as a currency paid by woman to man? You're saying it as if you're assuming she doesn't want it nor need it; "he can have sex with when he wants on his terms" -> do you live in their bedroom to know that?



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25 Jul 2019, 12:29 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Kimblesblue wrote:
My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.


So... I gotta say, this guy sounds like he's got it made. He has someone to share bills with, a maid, and someone he can have sex with when he wants on his terms. The fact that he's not willing to compromise is not surprising - what would be his motivation? He's been getting what he wants so far.

To be honest, if I were you when he says "Maybe you should go back to your mum's," I would probably take him up on that and do it. He doesn't sound like he wants a partner, he just wants someone around for his convenience.

You say you love him, but... what is it that you love about him? Because honestly he sounds a bit like an ass.


While you're not mistaken in most what you wrote there, but you always stereotype sex as a currency paid by woman to man? You're saying it as if you're assuming she doesn't want it nor need it; "he can have sex with when he wants on his terms" -> do you live in their bedroom to know that?


Well, no, that comment was in response to her statement: "... doesn't spend much time with me other than at bed time." So to me, that can be taken a couple of different ways, and I'd be interested to hear directly from her if what she said is the way I took it or not. :)

But regardless, whether she wants it or not, no one lives their entire life in the bedroom and a relationship is about way more than just sex. Even if the sex is good, there's got to be more than that for a relationship to survive, ESPECIALLY since she's already asked for some changes to be made and he's refused to consider.


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25 Jul 2019, 1:59 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
Kimblesblue wrote:
My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.


So... I gotta say, this guy sounds like he's got it made. He has someone to share bills with, a maid, and someone he can have sex with when he wants on his terms. The fact that he's not willing to compromise is not surprising - what would be his motivation? He's been getting what he wants so far.

To be honest, if I were you when he says "Maybe you should go back to your mum's," I would probably take him up on that and do it. He doesn't sound like he wants a partner, he just wants someone around for his convenience.

You say you love him, but... what is it that you love about him? Because honestly he sounds a bit like an ass.


While you're not mistaken in most what you wrote there, but you always stereotype sex as a currency paid by woman to man? You're saying it as if you're assuming she doesn't want it nor need it; "he can have sex with when he wants on his terms" -> do you live in their bedroom to know that?


Well, no, that comment was in response to her statement: "... doesn't spend much time with me other than at bed time." So to me, that can be taken a couple of different ways, and I'd be interested to hear directly from her if what she said is the way I took it or not. :)

But regardless, whether she wants it or not, no one lives their entire life in the bedroom and a relationship is about way more than just sex. Even if the sex is good, there's got to be more than that for a relationship to survive, ESPECIALLY since she's already asked for some changes to be made and he's refused to consider.


Bed time doesn't necessarily mean sex though.

You pervert. Tsk tsk.



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25 Jul 2019, 2:49 pm

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Bed time doesn't necessarily mean sex though.



Doesn't necessarily, but it can.

I withhold judgement until we hear more from her.


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25 Jul 2019, 4:09 pm

At this point kind of seems you may have to make an ultimatum. Like if he cannot work on some of those issues like spending too little time with you and expecting you to do all the chores without him even picking up after himself then you're considering leaving.

I mean why should you work all day, come home have to do all the chores and then he doesn't even socialize with you until bedtime, that would make anyone feel unappreciated. Just seems like you have tried to talk to him and he isn't receptive so maybe if you give an ultimatum and go stay with your mom for a while that would get the point across. That could also lead to breaking up, but if he won't compromise with you then perhaps that is how it needs to be.


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25 Jul 2019, 4:12 pm

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My partner has AS and I’m NT, I’m struggling! He is the bread winner in our relationship but insists that I pay more than I can afford towards household bills, leaving in the red as soon as I’m paid. He works hard but from home on his own business but has plenty of spare time to do things he wants to, I understand he like his alone time. He seems to think because I pay less I should do ALL the house work, that’s fine I don’t like the fact I can’t pay half so I feel it’s my contribution. However, he leaves everything for me to pick up, yogurt pots, towels, clothes etc, he’s never so much as made me a cup of tea, it’s wearing me down especially when he works so much and doesn’t spend time with me other than at bed time. When we try to discuss it he gets very defensive (we are clearly on different pages, maybe even in different books) I love my partner, support him as much as I can and want us to work but how can I make him see that me just going to work all day then and coming home and cleaning is unfair, when he likens our arrangement to paying for a subscription and not receiving the full packaged? If I don’t do everything he says I maybe I should go back to my mums. Which I find hurtful when I do so much. He only focuses on what I don’t do.


Goodness I would just take his advice and go back to your mom's. I wouldn't let anyone treat me that way. AS or not. Sounds like borderline abuse too on his part because I am sensing control issues here.


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Unreasonable Demands?
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Yes. From your account (which is the only one we have), he seems to be an uncaring jerk who wants to keep you around only for the benefits you provide. This is not a good situation for anybody. People need to grow, not stagnate. Following him around like a sad and lonely puppy is not the answer. Developing your own personality and becoming responsible for yourself (and only yourself) would be better for you in the long term.

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25 Jul 2019, 8:30 pm

Kimblesblue I think you should take him up on his suggestion to stay with your mom if that is an option & she isn't abusive or something. Your guy seems like he really doesn't care about you or your needs at all & would rather lose you than be inconvenienced by you. He seems like a selfish jerk & I fail to grasp how an Aspie guy like him can find a woman like you who does everything she can to make a realtionship work with him while there's plenty of single Aspie guys on this forum who would do most anything they can to get a girl & keep her. Could you explain what it was about your guy that made you fall in love with him :?:


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26 Jul 2019, 8:40 am

Thank you all for your responses. I have only recently found out he had AS, he apparently said he’d told me but I think I’d remember! I know it sounds ridiculous not to realise but I’ve never encountered anyone knowingly with AS but now I’ve done some research it’s like I’ve put glasses on. Most of the time we get along fine and share lots of laughs but I just feel like he is expecting too much for what I get in return. I’m from a loving family and he is not, he was abandoned by his parents and brought up by his nan who didn’t have much money and 2 children of her own as well as 2 of his siblings to clothe and feed. I’ve come from a family where my parents were a team and although we were far from rich we shared all we had, just a family. So before I found out he had AS, I just thought it was his upbringing and I could tell him how I felt and he’d understand. Now I’m invested and don’t want to give up on him just because he has AS (we do have positives, short post so just focuses on the negatives) I was just looking for advice from people who know, which I’ve got so I can make a more informed decision about our future. It’s seems I am putting off the inevitable as I think he would rather be without me than put up with some of the inconveniences that come with any relationship.

Fnord, I have my own interests and definitely a strong personality. I’ve spent a long time on my own and am not scared to do so again. As you say you only have my account, which doesn’t give a rounded picture of the last year in one paragraph but I wanted advice on what people thought, which I have received. He is caring but like I say this is mainly at bedtime (cuddles, not just sex) but I just feel like I do everything and I’m not appreciated.

Nick007 I met him on a night out, he has a very striking look (shallow, sorry) we got chatting and was very interesting compared to a lot people I’d met who had the personality of a boiled egg.