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24 Aug 2020, 11:20 am

My ex-fiance abused me psychologically. She told me that other women say I'm ugly and gross, and also gas lighted me like the time she claimed her relatives overheard me give an inaccurate DOB to the police after an accident. I wasn't attracted to her, but she was the only woman who had ever wanted to date me so I settled out of desperation. She broke up with me over the phone in a very cruel manner when I was going through a very difficult time. I fell into a deep depression and considered suicide because I realized no other woman would ever want to be with me. My mother promised me that things would get better if just them some time to. That all happened 11 years ago, and nothing has gotten better. I have not been in any relationship even once in those 11 years. I've only been intimate with a woman once in my life, and I ended up with two STIs. On the few rare occasions that I met a woman I liked who wasn't already taken, they insisted that they were uninterested or only wanted to be friends. All this went on as I watched everyone else around me; everyone I grew with, went to school with, or worked with all getting married and starting families while I just kept wondering what's wrong with me. My two sisters, both younger than me, are married and have 3 and 4 children respectively. So are all my friends from high school and university. I've had several women on social media tell me about how they feel turned off by men who are socially awkward like me. And now I'm almost 40 and still trapped in this cycle of rejection. Its impossible for any woman to ever love me, because of a condition that I neither asked for nor have any control over; because I was born defective.



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24 Aug 2020, 12:15 pm

I have autism.

I wasn’t born defective.

Neither were you.



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24 Aug 2020, 12:30 pm

Then why is it impossible for women to find me attractive?



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24 Aug 2020, 1:08 pm

dorkseid wrote:
Then why is it impossible for women to find me attractive?


I would say that IMHO "attractive" is the wrong word to use here. Maybe "acceptable" might better fit.

Off hand I think you are looking in the wrong places for women. I suggest you look out-of-the-box for a solution.

One of the attributes of an Aspie is that:
A relationship with someone who has Aspergers tends to be free from bias and discrimination based on race, gender, age or other differences. They judge people based on their behavior not the color of their skin, socioeconomic status or political influence.

That is a good quality. You can go outside social norms to find a mate - not based on the color of their skin, socioeconomic status or political influence. You can break all the rules in choosing a mate because to an Aspie these social rules do not apply.

There are several Aspies males on this site that have married outside the social norms. I believe Kraftiekortie married a woman who is black. I believe Fnord married a girl from Japan. I married a girl from the other side of the planet who did not even speak English. I suspect there have been several others on this board who took this unconventional approach.


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24 Aug 2020, 2:33 pm

Race isn't an issue for me. In fact, if I do have a preference its for women outside of my own race. But I do care about age. I don't want to date someone who's too young or too old. I'm not looking for a model, but physical appearance does matter to me. I'm open to women from other countries; I just don't know how to meet someone from far away. I can't tell if I like someone until I meet her in person.

Anyway, I feel that its too late for me at this point. I'm getting older and I'm obese. I don't want to be too descriptive, but let's say my body doesn't work as well as it used to. I have extremely low testosterone levels. I was going to a men's clinic for treatment, but then Covid happened.



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24 Aug 2020, 2:50 pm

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I'm getting older and I'm obese.
I was obese. I had RNY bariatric surgery and dropped 120 pounds in about 8 months. That was in May 2013. I have managed for the most part to not gain the weight back except for the 20 pound bounce. The lost weight did wonders for all my medical conditions. I use to take 5 prescriptions meds and now I take none.

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I'm open to women from other countries; I just don't know how to meet someone from far away. I can't tell if I like someone until I meet her in person.


That is the rub. If you know and work with someone from another country, they may provide you with an in.

I would say, yes you definitely need to meet her first and I would even recommend living with her and her parents for a few weeks in their country before you should think about moving forward. In the meantime there is always correspondence by mail or email or over the Internet.


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24 Aug 2020, 3:19 pm

jimmy m wrote:
... I believe Fnord married a girl from Japan...
Philippines.



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24 Aug 2020, 4:13 pm

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I'm open to women from other countries; I just don't know how to meet someone from far away. I can't tell if I like someone until I meet her in person.


That is the rub. If you know and work with someone from another country, they may provide you with an in.

I would say, yes you definitely need to meet her first and I would even recommend living with her and her parents for a few weeks in their country before you should think about moving forward. In the meantime there is always correspondence by mail or email or over the Internet.


I live in the US. And I'm too poor to travel the world.



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24 Aug 2020, 4:18 pm

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I live in the U.S., and I'm too poor to travel the world.
Are you also too poor to travel downtown?



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24 Aug 2020, 4:56 pm

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I live in the U.S., and I'm too poor to travel the world.
Are you also too poor to travel downtown?


No. Just never had any luck.



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24 Aug 2020, 5:04 pm

dorkseid wrote:
My ex-fiance abused me psychologically. She told me that other women say I'm ugly and gross, and also gas lighted me like the time she claimed her relatives overheard me give an inaccurate DOB to the police after an accident. I wasn't attracted to her, but she was the only woman who had ever wanted to date me so I settled out of desperation. She broke up with me over the phone in a very cruel manner when I was going through a very difficult time. I fell into a deep depression and considered suicide because I realized no other woman would ever want to be with me. My mother promised me that things would get better if just them some time to. That all happened 11 years ago, and nothing has gotten better. I have not been in any relationship even once in those 11 years. I've only been intimate with a woman once in my life, and I ended up with two STIs. On the few rare occasions that I met a woman I liked who wasn't already taken, they insisted that they were uninterested or only wanted to be friends. All this went on as I watched everyone else around me; everyone I grew with, went to school with, or worked with all getting married and starting families while I just kept wondering what's wrong with me. My two sisters, both younger than me, are married and have 3 and 4 children respectively. So are all my friends from high school and university. I've had several women on social media tell me about how they feel turned off by men who are socially awkward like me. And now I'm almost 40 and still trapped in this cycle of rejection. Its impossible for any woman to ever love me, because of a condition that I neither asked for nor have any control over; because I was born defective.


Women want a man who is confident and feels good about himself. A low self-esteem is a big turn off but you can improve it by changing how you think. You say you were born defective. I'm guessing you think that because of social difficulties. Would you tell a friend or relative who told you he was socially awkward that he's defective or would you think that's an overgeneralization because everyone has flaws and his weaknesses are only part of who he is as a person? If a friend or relative told you, "no other woman would ever want to be with me" would you say, "That's right. You're a loser." or would you say, "You can't possibly know that because you can't predict the future." One thing that helped me was focusing on the facts (social difficulties, trouble finding women) and telling myself that everyone has problems, no one is perfect. Then, focus on what you can do about them. Your thinking affects how you feel so focusing on something positive will help you feel better and make your life less stressful. It will also make women more attracted to you. In the meantime, it helps to learn to be content without a woman since being desperate or needy is another big turn off. Talking to people, being yourself, and finding activities with other people you enjoy can help you be more content being single and improve your social skills which will make dating easier.



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24 Aug 2020, 5:05 pm

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Then why is it impossible for women to find me attractive?
What do you have to offer that any sane, healthy, and attractive woman woman would want?



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24 Aug 2020, 5:24 pm

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dorkseid wrote:
My ex-fiance abused me psychologically. She told me that other women say I'm ugly and gross, and also gas lighted me like the time she claimed her relatives overheard me give an inaccurate DOB to the police after an accident. I wasn't attracted to her, but she was the only woman who had ever wanted to date me so I settled out of desperation. She broke up with me over the phone in a very cruel manner when I was going through a very difficult time. I fell into a deep depression and considered suicide because I realized no other woman would ever want to be with me. My mother promised me that things would get better if just them some time to. That all happened 11 years ago, and nothing has gotten better. I have not been in any relationship even once in those 11 years. I've only been intimate with a woman once in my life, and I ended up with two STIs. On the few rare occasions that I met a woman I liked who wasn't already taken, they insisted that they were uninterested or only wanted to be friends. All this went on as I watched everyone else around me; everyone I grew with, went to school with, or worked with all getting married and starting families while I just kept wondering what's wrong with me. My two sisters, both younger than me, are married and have 3 and 4 children respectively. So are all my friends from high school and university. I've had several women on social media tell me about how they feel turned off by men who are socially awkward like me. And now I'm almost 40 and still trapped in this cycle of rejection. Its impossible for any woman to ever love me, because of a condition that I neither asked for nor have any control over; because I was born defective.


Women want a man who is confident and feels good about himself. A low self-esteem is a big turn off but you can improve it by changing how you think. You say you were born defective. I'm guessing you think that because of social difficulties. Would you tell a friend or relative who told you he was socially awkward that he's defective or would you think that's an overgeneralization because everyone has flaws and his weaknesses are only part of who he is as a person? If a friend or relative told you, "no other woman would ever want to be with me" would you say, "That's right. You're a loser." or would you say, "You can't possibly know that because you can't predict the future." One thing that helped me was focusing on the facts (social difficulties, trouble finding women) and telling myself that everyone has problems, no one is perfect. Then, focus on what you can do about them. Your thinking affects how you feel so focusing on something positive will help you feel better and make your life less stressful. It will also make women more attracted to you. In the meantime, it helps to learn to be content without a woman since being desperate or needy is another big turn off. Talking to people, being yourself, and finding activities with other people you enjoy can help you be more content being single and improve your social skills which will make dating easier.


Every time I've done that I just got friend zoned.



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24 Aug 2020, 5:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Then why is it impossible for women to find me attractive?
What do you have to offer that any sane, healthy, and attractive woman woman would want?


Nothing.



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24 Aug 2020, 5:43 pm

How “obese” are you, actually?

Before I started exercising, I was about 180 at 5 foot 5. Right at the beginning of “obese.” That didn’t deter women.

And I’ve seen 500 pound men getting married.



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24 Aug 2020, 6:11 pm

dorkseid wrote:
Fnord wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Then why is it impossible for women to find me attractive?
What do you have to offer that any sane, healthy, and attractive woman woman would want?
Nothing.
Seriously?  No handyman skills, no household skills, no artistic talents ... literally nothing?