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23 Sep 2007, 4:22 pm

i think this can be scientifically proven, not only by my own observations (my mother) but almost every girl ive seen out there likes guys that are abusive, rude and overall barbarians. and most women always go back to an abusive relationship over and over again. its really to bad women dont pay more attention to me because i am one don jaun! i'll tell you that much :wink:


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23 Sep 2007, 4:26 pm

yes this is a job application/personal service announcement, so women dont be shy to apply :jester:


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23 Sep 2007, 4:42 pm

if I was 20 years younger I'd be there..... :wink:


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23 Sep 2007, 4:47 pm

yes go on, tell me more.. :heart:

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23 Sep 2007, 4:57 pm

I don't think it's quite so simple...

Primarily, once most women form an attachment... they like to do everything in their power to keep that commitment and relationship going forward. Even if it means putting up with abuse, it'll be worth it in the end... and in the throws of a relationship it's easy to put blinders on. Especially once they've accepted the relationship...

I think; this is mostly a refined guess on my part.

The Jerk problem comes in, because Jerks are usually more forward and direct... and generally appear well intentioned... or exciting at first. Jerks tend to be aggressive and peruse stuff more... it's not that women like them more... it's that they put themselves out there more.

Also, as another aside... with the failure rate of most relationships nowadays... I wouldn't be looking towards conventional women for what works anyways.


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23 Sep 2007, 5:11 pm

This is interesting. This exact topic was brought up 20 years ago when I was in college on Usenet. Many years before the WWW.

It basically comes down to this. Most women, if not all, like confidence. Unfortunately, jerks have a lot of confidence.

As far as them going back to these jerks, many women need attention that only these guys provide. Oh what a vicious cycle.


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23 Sep 2007, 5:24 pm

Yes women like men who are confident. They like someone who is a go-getter. A lot of those guys are jerks. However women genetically are programmed to seek a man that appears powerful and a good provider because subsconsciously they are driven to want to mate with someone who can provide well for offspring and donate good DNA to the offspring. Because of that drive many women are married or dating jerks.

Autism is bad DNA & most do not have good jobs; hence the reason few are attracted to Autistic guys. It is subconscious for the most part.

I think men have the same subconscious drive as the only ones you see seeking out weak DNA women are weak DNA men.



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23 Sep 2007, 5:28 pm

Ticker wrote:
Yes women like men who are confident. They like someone who is a go-getter. A lot of those guys are jerks. However women genetically are programmed to seek a man that appears powerful and a good provider because subsconsciously they are driven to want to mate with someone who can provide well for offspring and donate good DNA to the offspring. Because of that drive many women are married or dating jerks.

Autism is bad DNA & most do not have good jobs; hence the reason few are attracted to Autistic guys. It is subconscious for the most part.

I think men have the same subconscious drive as the only ones you see seeking out weak DNA women are weak DNA men.


Wouldn't it depend on the extent of the guy's AS, if he has it?

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23 Sep 2007, 5:44 pm

`Weak` DNA? Most NT men are the ones with weak DNA.Women look for potential mates who exhibit feminine traits,they don`t find these in AS men.Look up Baron Cohen and Autism on the net


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Yes women like men who are confident. They like someone who is a go-getter. A lot of those guys are jerks. However women genetically are programmed to seek a man that appears powerful and a good provider because subsconsciously they are driven to want to mate with someone who can provide well for offspring and donate good DNA to the offspring. Because of that drive many women are married or dating jerks.

Autism is bad DNA & most do not have good jobs; hence the reason few are attracted to Autistic guys. It is subconscious for the most part.

I think men have the same subconscious drive as the only ones you see seeking out weak DNA women are weak DNA men.



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23 Sep 2007, 5:49 pm

richardbenson wrote:
i think this can be scientifically proven, not only by my own observations (my mother) but almost every girl ive seen out there likes guys that are abusive, rude and overall barbarians. and most women always go back to an abusive relationship over and over again. its really to bad women dont pay more attention to me because i am one don jaun! i'll tell you that much :wink:


I was a Don Juan myself in high school. Now, I am at a point in my life where I want to settle down.

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23 Sep 2007, 5:51 pm

richardbenson wrote:
i think this can be scientifically proven, not only by my own observations (my mother) but almost every girl ive seen out there likes guys that are abusive, rude and overall barbarians. and most women always go back to an abusive relationship over and over again. its really to bad women dont pay more attention to me because i am one don jaun! i'll tell you that much :wink:


The trouble is that being self assured is attractive. What you're really looking for is someone who's confident and at ease with themselves and also a fundamentally lovely human being. Failing that, jerks > wimps. Sorry.



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23 Sep 2007, 6:31 pm

sarahstilettos wrote:
The trouble is that being self assured is attractive. What you're really looking for is someone who's confident and at ease with themselves and also a fundamentally lovely human being. Failing that, jerks > wimps. Sorry.


So what is the deal with rape then? I would think that any guy who would rape a girl is showing quite a bit of self assurance and confidence while being quite a jerk. Too bad rape is illegal, if you observe the animal kingdom it is obviously the natural way. It wouldn't be illegal if it weren't for wimps, because if we were all jerks we would've kept women subjugated. The ironic part of the wimps doing this is that they f****d themselves because with women able to choose their mates rather than having no choice in the matter the wimps responsible for those laws are the ones getting overlooked.


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23 Sep 2007, 6:38 pm

agmoie wrote:
`Weak` DNA? Most NT men are the ones with weak DNA.Women look for potential mates who exhibit feminine traits,they don`t find these in AS men.Look up Baron Cohen and Autism on the net



Sorry dude but autistic genes are bad DNA. AS people aren't able to interact correctly, have problems holding jobs and often have coordination issues. That doesn't make for a good mate. I notice you are from Northern Ireland and very manly looking in your avatar. But all the US Aspie men I have met are usually very feminine acting and weak. For instance there are several guys at work I think have AS and they are all the laughing stock of the NT women. They are just too girly, shy and wimpy. I'm friends with a lot of the NT guys who are the typical guy type though. It seems like the older AS guys are more masculine than the younger ones. Come to think of it maybe its a generational thing because a lot of the NT young guys are very sissy these days.



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23 Sep 2007, 6:42 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
i think this can be scientifically proven, not only by my own observations (my mother) but almost every girl ive seen out there likes guys that are abusive, rude and overall barbarians. and most women always go back to an abusive relationship over and over again. its really to bad women dont pay more attention to me because i am one don jaun! i'll tell you that much :wink:


I was a Don Juan myself in high school. Now, I am at a point in my life where I want to settle down.

Tim


I'm quiet the opposite of Tim.
I'm looking for a low-key type of girl looking for a low-key type of guy.
Do you think I might be a Don Juan in college?


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23 Sep 2007, 6:56 pm

LogicGenerator wrote:
This is interesting. This exact topic was brought up 20 years ago when I was in college on Usenet. Many years before the WWW.


Funny thing that the ONLY two times
this has ever been discussed, you
were present.



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23 Sep 2007, 6:59 pm

Anyhow, it's more than mere confidence
which makes jerks seem successful. It's
prioritizing themselves over others' feelings.
Now, this is something WE should be very
good at.