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06 Dec 2007, 2:43 pm

...with IT student?

That is to say, that I am an IT student, and given the fact that there's only two women in the entire IT program, it's hard to find someone with similar interests...



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06 Dec 2007, 3:39 pm

Theres more to a person than their career or major... I'm sure you have other interests, find something else to share (most ppl don't share same majors anyways) to look for in a girl... or just find a girl first, then see how compatable you are



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06 Dec 2007, 4:46 pm

One with a pulse.

No seriously..........

It doesn't matter if you're an IT student, an economics student, a math student or a geology student. If you go out on a date and all you can talk about is your chosen field of study then you're not going to have much luck with the ladies (been there, done that, got the t-shirt).

If however you can talk about a range of subjects and your dates include more than the local bar and/or the latest Science Fiction epic then you stand a chance. So, work on your social and conversation skills and use a bit of imagination when it comes to places for an evening out.

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P.S. The movies Animal House and Real Genius should not be considered as a guide to student dating. Trust me on this.



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06 Dec 2007, 5:51 pm

edal wrote:
One with a pulse.

So, necrophilia is out?

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No seriously..........

Oh.

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It doesn't matter if you're an IT student, an economics student, a math student or a geology student. If you go out on a date and all you can talk about is your chosen field of study then you're not going to have much luck with the ladies (been there, done that, got the t-shirt).

If however you can talk about a range of subjects and your dates include more than the local bar and/or the latest Science Fiction epic then you stand a chance. So, work on your social and conversation skills and use a bit of imagination when it comes to places for an evening out.

If I had a link to wikipedia implanted in my head, then maybe I could pull that off. Wikipedia is what allows me to know things about a wide range of subjects on-demand. Without it, I might as well be non-verbal...

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P.S. The movies Animal House and Real Genius should not be considered as a guide to student dating. Trust me on this.

I'm aware enough of that... otherwise, I would be the proud owner of a paddle...



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06 Dec 2007, 11:27 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
edal wrote:
One with a pulse.

So, necrophilia is out?

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No seriously..........

Oh.

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It doesn't matter if you're an IT student, an economics student, a math student or a geology student. If you go out on a date and all you can talk about is your chosen field of study then you're not going to have much luck with the ladies (been there, done that, got the t-shirt).

If however you can talk about a range of subjects and your dates include more than the local bar and/or the latest Science Fiction epic then you stand a chance. So, work on your social and conversation skills and use a bit of imagination when it comes to places for an evening out.

If I had a link to wikipedia implanted in my head, then maybe I could pull that off. Wikipedia is what allows me to know things about a wide range of subjects on-demand. Without it, I might as well be non-verbal...

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P.S. The movies Animal House and Real Genius should not be considered as a guide to student dating. Trust me on this.

I'm aware enough of that... otherwise, I would be the proud owner of a paddle...


Thats not that considerate, you asked a question and he answered with a good response, none of it warranted breaking it down and commenting like that, or are you saying you absolutely have no other interests than your major and we're seriously expected to know that, and not comment otherwise?



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07 Dec 2007, 12:12 am

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Thats not that considerate, you asked a question and he answered with a good response, none of it warranted breaking it down and commenting like that, or are you saying you absolutely have no other interests than your major and we're seriously expected to know that, and not comment otherwise?


I guess you can say it's a combination of frustration, cynicism, and a sore subject to me that set me off like that (i guess it's my fault as much as anyones for bringing it up in the first place, though)...

I have other interests other than my major, but they usually tend towards solitude (sitting in my room on photoshop or surfing wikipedia)... I do get involved with stuff at my church, but there's a noticeable lack of college students (or even recently graduated students) around... I usually end up either supervising middle schoolers or placed into a group of people that for the most part easily have 30-40 years on me...

The only time I see people within the 18-25 crowd is at college, and since I go to a tech school and am enrolled in the IT program, there are just never any women around...

And before you ask, no, I don't go to bars. Bars are the second worst place to meet someone (after internet dating sites)... I need someone who already has pre-existing common interest, giving us something meaningful to talk about... otherwise I wouldn't be able to sustain the communication that is apparently necessary for a relationship (I only say apparently because I don't have first-hand experience)



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07 Dec 2007, 1:50 am

You have to stop and take times to think things from a neutral standpoint sometimes

I often think I'm lame and useless and have nothing to talk about, because I stay in my room most the time, surf the web and play ffxi, whenever I'm not forced to go to classes... but I actually do have a fairly large amount things to talk about when I get down to it (I also have ADD and a 'auditory processing disorder', and tend to be quite random, which really helps... if the other person doesn't mind someone randomly splurting out all sorts of weird stuff and nonsensical stuff (like our teacher says "Eigenvectors" and I misheard it as "eigenberries" every single time he said it, and kinda started cracking up and doodling eigenberries-- mishearing things *that* bad isn't really good, nor is being completely aloof, but I do a fair enough job of making it amusing for me and those aroudn me).

You said you help with your church and stuff, so that right there is another place to keep in common, maybe yuo cna find someone through a church group later on, and when youd o find someone, I'm sure you have *SOME* stories about htose middleschoolers and whatever other events


I don't go to bars either, nor do I ever mention it, because I think thats just stupid, but then again I'm the type of person to look for someone for life, and not for a fun time (constantly shocked how many people want a date to say they have a bf/gf and have a good time, but don't care at all about living with them for the rest of their life, and looking for the *ONE* person in their life...)

You go to a tech school, but doesn't mean there aren't other girls in other departments... I'm a girl in engineering right now... pretty limited in number of girls there, in quite a few of my classes I'm one of 2 girls in a class of 30ish, so used to it myself, but ont he other hand, there are alotta other girls around, and in the main engineering class there was quite a few...

Don't see any other girls in messhalls or bookstores? Take a trip to mall or shopping center for thigns sometimes, could find someone on the bus... you never really know... I'm constantly amazed how close the world is, you can walk up to someone random and more often than not (I have no expectation of it, why it shocks me) they have something in common... by being from same town as you, knowing your roommate, being in your class, being your best friends roommate, whatever... its supprising, so I dont think you should look for someone directly in your social group first, just find anyone and start talking, find no interests, then nothing lost, moved on, do find interests then there you go, something to work on



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07 Dec 2007, 8:02 am

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I guess you can say it's a combination of frustration, cynicism, and a sore subject to me that set me off like that (i guess it's my fault as much as anyones for bringing it up in the first place, though)...

I have other interests other than my major, but they usually tend towards solitude (sitting in my room on photoshop or surfing wikipedia)...


I know lots of girls who are completely obsessed with photoshop. You may try using this as a common interest to meet girls. Have you ever participated in a photo-editing contest?


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07 Dec 2007, 1:09 pm

1) I've never seen any women interested in photoshop (not that many men i know interested in photoshop either)

2) I said it was an interest i had. I never said I was any good.

3) The only image editing contests ive seen are online, and as I stated before, I'm not big on meeting people online...



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10 Dec 2007, 3:57 pm

OK, let's have another go (good job I'm thick skinned).

First you need to find a girlfriend. Computer Science and IT courses are open to both sexes but your chances of finding an available member of the opposite sex in this environment are pretty slim. You are however at an education establishment where there will be many courses with a large female membership so all is not lost. Have a look at the notice boards around campus, universities and colleges have lots of societies and clubs so try and find one that you might find interesting.

Don't discount online and computer dating. I've tried it and depending on what you expect it can work rather well. Thirty years ago I had the social skills of a gorilla with a hangover so I signed on with a computer dating outfit and got to work. If (like me) you were no good with the ladies then the first few relationships will not work out, this is not a problem. The advantage of computer dating is that you can try again and again until you start to get it right.

So, you're off on an evening out and it's a first date. What do you do and where do you go? It's possible (although unlikely) that your partner for the evening will be interested in seeing Beowolf so it might be an idea to choose a movie that you both like. I don't know where you are in the world or what's on at your local movie theater so I'm going to trust you to make a sensible decision. After the movie comes either a meal or a visit to a local bar and here's where it gets REALLY hard. There are going to be long conversations with your date and you will need to do your part here. It's no good talking about database structures or Linux firewalls because she's likely to go to the bathroom and not come back, you could however talk about the movie, local events, events at your college, politics (maybe) or even yourself. All of this will have to be done without access to Wikipedia. This means that you will have to practice.

Finally, there's nothing wrong with remaining nameless. I'm too old to bother hiding behind a username so what you see is what you get. As for Animal House and Real Genius, if university life was like that I would have never left and by now I would be on my 7th degree.

Have fun!

Ed Almos BSc
Edinburgh University Dept. of Geology
Class of 1979



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10 Dec 2007, 6:09 pm

Well there are some items...
-Yes, this is an education establishment, but pretty much all of the degrees offered here are engineering, science, or technology-related. The male:female ratio is something like 4:1 here (and alot of the women here are much older and either getting a graduate degree or taking night classes concurrently with a full-time job.

-People have told that I come off quite well in conversation, especially if the conversation has a topic to it (no matter what the topic is)... I just don't come across well in small talk, or romance for that matter. It's not so much my being a social outcast... in High School I actually had many friends (though I didn't know it at the time, hindsight and all)... it's the fact that I was basically the class Craftmatic (pardon the expression)... People would ingratiate themselves to me because I was the one person who knew most of the stuff required to pass classes (one girl was heavily flirting with me because I knew what a punnett square was, and some guy actually paid me $100 to tutor him in civil war topics for history...) Any advances made by women during high school I generally turned down, however, to avoid looking like a tool...

-The one time I almost found myself in a relationship was when I did a live theater stint... As I've said before, I sing in a church choir, and one time the choir director mentioned that she could really use my voice in this high school theater troupe she also works for (they do musicals), and when I was there I met this wonderful woman... by the end of it we were pretty much a couple in every way except officially (she was also a fan og long drawn-out hugs which helped)... one of my regrets to this day is not asking her out, as I haven't seen her since... (Now that I'm in college, I can't go back to that theater group anymore)

-PS: I'm sorry if I was kind of mean to you, ed. I just get a little frustrated and ornery whenever the subject of love comes up (just wait for valentines day, I'm probably going to post a long thread about how it sucks...)