Must read. Theory of Loneliness

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07 Feb 2008, 8:51 am

Must read. Theory of loneliness

Before I go on in detail. Lets say, you own some workhorses and by whipping them they work harder. The tougher they are the harder they can be whipped. The owner of the workhorses realise that the horses respond positively to whipping them. If the horses responded by slowing down, the owner would not whip the horses.

Loneliness is supposed to be a motive to find a relationship and possibly have children. I know this for a fact because I would not with relationships if it was not for the fear of loneliness. I am like the workhorse that responds to well to whipping. I have been whipped to the point of insanity.

My theory that if I stop responding positively to loneliness by going out, trying to give a good NT impression, dieting and spend non-productive time and money on computer instead. This would be like the horse that responds negatively by being whipped by slowing down. The owner my try whipping harder initially to get the horse mothing, but eventually would give up. The same logic applies to loneliness.



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07 Feb 2008, 8:51 am

...what?



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07 Feb 2008, 9:33 am

The horse runs faster to get away from the painful whip behind (it's unaware it's pulling/carrying it along with it), this is people taking advantage of the stupidity of animals (by comparison).

A person's feelings and emotions can't really be compared or manipulated in the same way, loneliness in my mind isn't just the need to pro-create, it's also about just being with someone.



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07 Feb 2008, 10:08 am

This is the logic I am currently using, and it sucks either way man.. Either you get lucky or you will suffer forever.


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07 Feb 2008, 10:47 am

Mark198423 wrote:
The horse runs faster to get away from the painful whip behind (it's unaware it's pulling/carrying it along with it), this is people taking advantage of the stupidity of animals (by comparison).

A person's feelings and emotions can't really be compared or manipulated in the same way, loneliness in my mind isn't just the need to pro-create, it's also about just being with someone.


The same mentality works in slavery. You work or you get beets for not working hard enough. Soon as the workers go on strike, the persicuter will to stop his whipping and try something else.



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07 Feb 2008, 10:57 am

Stimulus/response isnt a bad way of looking at it A_C. Good luck with your project/test.



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07 Feb 2008, 12:00 pm

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Who would want to copyright this image is beyound me.

Being a slob is my responce to being punished with chronic loneliness. Not fighting it. By fighting it, I am only feeding it and giving it a valid reason for exsisting.



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07 Feb 2008, 2:09 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
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Who would want to copyright this image is beyound me.

Being a slob is my responce to being punished with chronic loneliness. Not fighting it. By fighting it, I am only feeding it and giving it a valid reason for exsisting.


Might just be me but that guy looks kinda sad - or even lonely!



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07 Feb 2008, 3:38 pm

i used to ride a horse that did slow down if it was hit, & many try to throw you off if you hit them, i don't see this as a positive response!


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07 Feb 2008, 3:40 pm

Mark198423 wrote:
Might just be me but that guy looks kinda sad - or even lonely!


He isn't that bad looking, but it was the only slob I could find.



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07 Feb 2008, 5:02 pm

I agree with you Chav, except...

The whippings continue regardless of whether or not they're effective as motivation. Only successful compliance can stop the whippings.



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07 Feb 2008, 5:15 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
Must read. Theory of loneliness

Before I go on in detail. Lets say, you own some workhorses and by whipping them they work harder. The tougher they are the harder they can be whipped. The owner of the workhorses realise that the horses respond positively to whipping them. If the horses responded by slowing down, the owner would not whip the horses.

Loneliness is supposed to be a motive to find a relationship and possibly have children. I know this for a fact because I would not with relationships if it was not for the fear of loneliness. I am like the workhorse that responds to well to whipping. I have been whipped to the point of insanity.

My theory that if I stop responding positively to loneliness by going out, trying to give a good NT impression, dieting and spend non-productive time and money on computer instead. This would be like the horse that responds negatively by being whipped by slowing down. The owner my try whipping harder initially to get the horse mothing, but eventually would give up. The same logic applies to loneliness.


Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing lately. Some people are like this, and some people are not. Being lonely is definitely good motivation to make someone diet, exercise, and get healthy for some people. It is the same in other areas of life also. Getting paid less than you are worth or being treated poorly at work is good motivation for some people to leave the companies they work for and to start their own successful businesses.



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08 Feb 2008, 2:17 am

Dishman wrote:
I agree with you Chav, except...

The whippings continue regardless of whether or not they're effective as motivation. Only successful compliance can stop the whippings.


I am not completely sure. When the master is completely dependent on the slave and the decides he doesn't want to go on because of the whipping, the master has to change.



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08 Feb 2008, 2:27 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
if I stop responding positively to loneliness by going out, trying to give a good NT impression, dieting and spend non-productive time and money on computer instead.


Uh-uh. Combine the two, and respond to loneliness by going out but NOT trying to give an NT impression. Go out with those with whom you DON'T have to give an NT impression.

Learn to dance. Women love it, and the dance scene is aspie-friendly.

When not dancing -- spend PRODUCTIVE time on the computer, meeting ASPIE WOMEN!! !



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08 Feb 2008, 3:13 am

juliekitty wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
if I stop responding positively to loneliness by going out, trying to give a good NT impression, dieting and spend non-productive time and money on computer instead.


Uh-uh. Combine the two, and respond to loneliness by going out but NOT trying to give an NT impression. Go out with those with whom you DON'T have to give an NT impression.

Learn to dance. Women love it, and the dance scene is aspie-friendly.

When not dancing -- spend PRODUCTIVE time on the computer, meeting ASPIE WOMEN!! !


Will probably never learn to dance so, I guess diet and exercise will have to do.