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29 Jul 2008, 2:01 pm

It's no wonder why you can't get what you want.


Based on the topics in the love and dating section of males pretending they know women so well.

1. Not all women want kids.

2. Telling women to quit falling for suave guys meanwhile you think you are entitled to this kind of girl: Image

is hypocritical or you are taking it out on women here that aren't just like the women you have met in real life is a little insulting:

Also yes I'm aware you are going to come in and nit pick at this model. Either her eyes aren't the shade you like or you prefer pale skin or redheads and brunettes.

3. Yes, there are girls that enjoy video games. Setting the boundaries for what games are considered games like can't be Sims because you heard alot of females play it is stupid. I know guys who play the Sims too! So you want a girl addicted to games as much as you huh? When are you ever going to have sex? :scratch:


4. Not all women are out to steal your worldly posessions.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:17 pm

Darn it, woman!

I hate it when I can't even find a simple spelling error in what you post, let alone finding fault with what you have to say.

1) Not all women want kids. However, when a woman seems obsessed with the ideas of weddings, marriage, and motherhood on the first date, this induces anxiety in a lot of men.

2a) Telling a woman to not fall for suave guys just because they're suave makes better sense than just warning her to stay away from them all.

2b) Sometimes, a guy will care about a girl without feeling any entitlements for her ... sometimes ...

3) I learned some of the most effective mind games from women, and gained immunity from them in the process. But you are referring to video games ... unfortunately, multi-player games seem mostly about combat, and the best puzzle-solving games are not designed for team play. Even more unfortunate; some guys seem to consider playing a video game with a woman as a form of foreplay.

4) Not all women are out to steal a man's worldy possessions. But I have yet to meet a woman who does not somehow lay claim to some entitlement for her boyfriend's residence (for decorating, living, or both), mode of transportation, or free time.

While there is always some truth to every stereotype, not every stereotype applies to every example.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:18 pm

catspurr wrote:
1. Not all women want kids.


DUH! But many of them do want kids and I daresay that the percentage of women who actively want childen is greater than the percentage of men who want such.

catspurr wrote:
2. Telling women to quit falling for suave guys meanwhile you think you are entitled to this kind of girl: Image

is hypocritical or you are taking it out on women here that aren't just like the women you have met in real life is a little insulting:

Also yes I'm aware you are going to come in and nit pick at this model. Either her eyes aren't the shade you like or you prefer pale skin or redheads and brunettes.


Ive heard that tired-ass cliche of "you're not entitled to it..." blah blah blah before :roll:. But if you think that telling me such or implying it is going to induce humility in me, think again! The fact remains that I *want* a girl I consider pretty and I will Do WHATEVER is necessary to get such a girl! I know damn well Ive got competition and so I have to figure out how to either eliminate the competition or come up wish something I can offer them that my competitors cannot. The thing about the mating game is that *winning*("scoring") is really want counts, not how you play it. And sometimes you have to Cheat in order to win/be successful in life :D .



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29 Jul 2008, 2:22 pm

I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

I'm just lucky I'm not ugly, I guess.

And what's up with all the women who are dying for marriage and babies? A pregnancy would not go full-term in my body for quite awhile and a ring on my finger just means he officially owns half of what I make.

Strong women ftw ;)



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29 Jul 2008, 2:29 pm

Fnord, good response. You are on the right track.

Haliphron, you sound like a psycho in the making "And sometimes you have to Cheat in order to win/be successful in life"

either that or your soul mate could possibly be Tanya Harding. ;)

Alright enough with snarking with you because you do have some good concerns about coming up with something your competition doesn't have. Why is all this social crap competative anyway? It is though so back to reality.

Do you focus on your own looks? Do you smell funny? I hope not. There's the guys that lay on the cologne that is really annoying and vomit worthy. Then there are guys who just shower and smell good naturally.

Just because you are finishing last also does not mean you are actually a nice guy. Also some girls do like guys who finish last because alot of these guys who finish first don't last long in bed at all.

Don't turn into Rico Suave okay? Unlike what you see in the bar scene or wherever it is you see most of the social competition...there are alot of females that been there and done that with the suave guys and are ready to move on but NOT if you are a tire slasher.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:30 pm

Gigglesqueak wrote:
I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

I'm just lucky I'm not ugly, I guess.

And what's up with all the women who are dying for marriage and babies? A pregnancy would not go full-term in my body for quite awhile and a ring on my finger just means he officially owns half of what I make.

Strong women ftw ;)


I know what boys like! I know what guys want!...

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29 Jul 2008, 2:31 pm

Gigglesqueak wrote:
I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

I'm just lucky I'm not ugly, I guess.

And what's up with all the women who are dying for marriage and babies? A pregnancy would not go full-term in my body for quite awhile and a ring on my finger just means he officially owns half of what I make.

Strong women ftw ;)


Don't know where you are gathering your statistics about marriage and babies considering there are contraceptives, abortions and tons of women who don't want to be bothered by children.

Now if you are in your 30's and can't see why women want children around your age...ummm okay.

If you are in your early 20's or a teen and you hear someone obsessively talking about having babies and they must have THEM NOW and she tries to trap you in a corner, the logical reaction would be to run.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:36 pm

catspurr wrote:
Fnord, good response. You are on the right track.

Haliphron, you sound like a psycho in the making "And sometimes you have to Cheat in order to win/be successful in life"

either that or your soul mate could possibly be Tanya Harding. ;)

Alright enough with snarking with you because you do have some good concerns about coming up with something your competition doesn't have. Why is all this social crap competative anyway? It is though so back to reality.

Do you focus on your own looks? Do you smell funny? I hope not. There's the guys that lay on the cologne that is really annoying and vomit worthy. Then there are guys who just shower and smell good naturally.

Just because you are finishing last also does not mean you are actually a nice guy. Also some girls do like guys who finish last because alot of these guys who finish first don't last long in bed at all.

Don't turn into Rico Suave okay? Unlike what you see in the bar scene or wherever it is you see most of the social competition...there are alot of females that been there and done that with the suave guys and are ready to move on but NOT if you are a tire slasher.


catspurr, I am NOT a "nice guy"! Not by ANY stretch of the imagination :twisted: . I dont know where you got that idea from because it doesnt apply to me. Now am I not a *psycho* either, Im just being brutally honest :wink: . But what I spoke of is NOT anything illegal or violent, because such things would only land me in jail. I do focus on my looks but what I have discovered is that looks(no matter how good) just arent enough by themselves when it comes to attracting women. And yes, quite a bit of social interaction IS competitive IRL.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:40 pm

Gigglesqueak wrote:
I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

All too often, the point is missed that while most heterosexual / gynotropic men would like to be loved by a woman for who they are, they also know that when all else is equal, a woman will be attracted more to a man with material wealth than not.

Another point that is missed is that while most heterosexual / gynotropic men are attracted to physically appealing women (and this covers a wide range of physical types), if there is little or nothing to a woman than a great-looking body and the willingness to have sex, the attraction will last only until the man realizes that looks and sex are all she has to offer.

For men, her appearance alone is usually enough to attract him, but she'd better have more going for her if she wants him to stick around (compassion, education, ethics, intellect, money, morality, respect, trust, et cetera) ... a lot more.



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29 Jul 2008, 4:19 pm

catspurr wrote:
Gigglesqueak wrote:
I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

I'm just lucky I'm not ugly, I guess.

And what's up with all the women who are dying for marriage and babies? A pregnancy would not go full-term in my body for quite awhile and a ring on my finger just means he officially owns half of what I make.

Strong women ftw ;)


Don't know where you are gathering your statistics about marriage and babies considering there are contraceptives, abortions and tons of women who don't want to be bothered by children.

Now if you are in your 30's and can't see why women want children around your age...ummm okay.

If you are in your early 20's or a teen and you hear someone obsessively talking about having babies and they must have THEM NOW and she tries to trap you in a corner, the logical reaction would be to run.


I'm a woman...what guy has a screenname like Gigglesqueak??? Lol.



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29 Jul 2008, 4:22 pm

Gigglesqueak wrote:
catspurr wrote:
Gigglesqueak wrote:
I do find it kind of ironic that men (and this is not a neurological specific trait) frequently think that women should date men based on their personality or substance and claim they are "shallow" if they don't...yet they are looking for someone that is physically appealing to them.

I'm just lucky I'm not ugly, I guess.

And what's up with all the women who are dying for marriage and babies? A pregnancy would not go full-term in my body for quite awhile and a ring on my finger just means he officially owns half of what I make.

Strong women ftw ;)


Don't know where you are gathering your statistics about marriage and babies considering there are contraceptives, abortions and tons of women who don't want to be bothered by children.

Now if you are in your 30's and can't see why women want children around your age...ummm okay.

If you are in your early 20's or a teen and you hear someone obsessively talking about having babies and they must have THEM NOW and she tries to trap you in a corner, the logical reaction would be to run.


I'm a woman...what guy has a screenname like Gigglesqueak??? Lol.


One that likes to squeeze rubber duckies and laugh?



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29 Jul 2008, 4:26 pm

I'm glad someone brought this up. The thing is, women are individual people, just like men. There are a number of similarities and cultural trends that exist, but trying to figure all women out based on that is pointless. One of the reasons why some guys claim women are "illogical" is because they always find one who doesn't quite fit into their assumptions about women. They think they have them all "figured out" and then they're proven wrong. I, too, am guilty of making generalizations about women, but at this point, I don't see the use in trying to "figure them out" except as individual people.

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3. Yes, there are girls that enjoy video games. Setting the boundaries for what games are considered games like can't be Sims because you heard alot of females play it is stupid. I know guys who play the Sims too! So you want a girl addicted to games as much as you huh? When are you ever going to have sex? :scratch:

The reason for the game criteria, at least from my point of view, is because you want to be with someone who shares some of your interests. Computer/video games are my ultimate interest. I would NOT want a woman who has no appreciation for them... it would never work out. We wouldn't be able to talk about very much, and she would eventually get fed up with me for being boring. So it's definitely a disadvantageous interest for a guy to have if he's not around a lot of female gamers, but I would NOT want to change it just so that I could score with the ladies.



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29 Jul 2008, 5:36 pm

First off , i'd take a cute brunette over her any day , besides i'm always attracted to cute wall flowers , it's just how i am , and i have no problem with it. Sides' i know some woman don't want children , after watch Nanny 911 i can't say i'd totally love having kids all the time either lol



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29 Jul 2008, 7:45 pm

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catspurr wrote:
Fnord, good response. You are on the right track.

Haliphron, you sound like a psycho in the making "And sometimes you have to Cheat in order to win/be successful in life"

either that or your soul mate could possibly be Tanya Harding. ;)

Alright enough with snarking with you because you do have some good concerns about coming up with something your competition doesn't have. Why is all this social crap competative anyway? It is though so back to reality.

Do you focus on your own looks? Do you smell funny? I hope not. There's the guys that lay on the cologne that is really annoying and vomit worthy. Then there are guys who just shower and smell good naturally.

Just because you are finishing last also does not mean you are actually a nice guy. Also some girls do like guys who finish last because alot of these guys who finish first don't last long in bed at all.

Don't turn into Rico Suave okay? Unlike what you see in the bar scene or wherever it is you see most of the social competition...there are alot of females that been there and done that with the suave guys and are ready to move on but NOT if you are a tire slasher.


catspurr, I am NOT a "nice guy"! Not by ANY stretch of the imagination :twisted: . I dont know where you got that idea from because it doesnt apply to me. Now am I not a *psycho* either, Im just being brutally honest :wink: . But what I spoke of is NOT anything illegal or violent, because such things would only land me in jail. I do focus on my looks but what I have discovered is that looks(no matter how good) just arent enough by themselves when it comes to attracting women. And yes, quite a bit of social interaction IS competitive IRL.


Why is all this social crap competative anyway? It is though so back to reality.

I was asking why because I will never understand that mentality. I can understand if you are competative with sports or video games but how others treat each other over the whole dating thing I'll never get.



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29 Jul 2008, 8:07 pm

catspurr wrote:

Why is all this social crap competative anyway? It is though so back to reality.

I was asking why because I will never understand that mentality. I can understand if you are competative with sports or video games but how others treat each other over the whole dating thing I'll never get.


It is my view that for males everything is competative, so social crap is competative thing like everything else.

It is the alpha male theory. If you are better than the other males around you, you are more attractive. Women are attracted to success.

When talking about women in general you have to generalize, what else can you do?



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29 Jul 2008, 8:27 pm

Ok, who said guys were any different? I'm sure many here are not different in this aspect, although I feel I am.

I admit I won't go for the female equivalent of Quazimodo, but my standards as far as 'looks' aren't very high on the charts...