Here's a quote from another site I just read, it's a goldmine.
Enjoy.
黒糖父 wrote:
Glad you liked my example, but like I said in the other post that was not a transcription of an actual conversation but the ideal conversation I have in my head of how it might play out. Anyways you asked about how I do my seeding, so let me just clarify and explain my thoughts on seeding.
Seeding is just putting ideas into her head. You want as many of those ideas to be positive and about the two of you doing things together as you can.
How do you seed?
You have to listen to her, really listen. She is throwing you hints all the time about what interests her. Her body language, her dress, and particular what emotions she uses to describe things shes talking about.
How do you seed from her body language? For example, is she being very flirtatious? Is her body language open and touchy freely? You should probably seed something that is adventurous or that requires someone who is active or something where she can display how sexy she is. Tango? Salsa dancing? Concert? DJ event?
Is her body language shy? Closed? Maybe a quiet museum date is more her style, gallery, exhibition, walk in the park, painting... you get the picture. This goes hand in hand with dress, if she is dressed like a hip-hop girl she obviously will be down for clubbing or concerts. Obviously don't try to entice a goth chick to go see some rap concert and vice-versa.
Seeding from the way she is talking about things. This one is the most important. You can be talking about anything in your conversation but your listening for the words she uses to describe those things. Listening for things that describe her feelings towards something. You can gauge her interest in certain topics this way. It's usually pretty obvious when you hit the right thing that excites her. Her eyes get big, she leans forward and she starts to describe how passionate she is about blah blah blah hobby or thing.
父: Yeah I like the taste of mint chocolates
HB: ! !! Mint Chocolate is the best! I love the smell, my grandma used to leave them on our pillow whenever we went to her house.
In the above example she is describing a nostalgic feeling about her childhood. You could go off on a tangent about things you did at your grandma's house, what shows you watched when you were little. Then you tell her about this cool store you found in Shibuya called Mandarake that has all that cool nostalgic s**t from your childhood. Seed it. Whatever, it doesnt matter really. I don't usually think this much about seeding it just comes to me but essentially you want to seed things that you already know the girl is interested in.
Things I think the seed should include would be;
Imagery
Emotions
Fun
Sexy
The two of you together
Uniqueness
So how do you do seed that kinda stuff?
Talk about it using vivid words and statements.
父: I really find smooking Hookah to be relaxing, yah know its like... you and a good friend can just sit out on the balcony, lay back and pass the delicious flavored smoke between the both of you.
HB: Mmm... I know what you mean, that sounds like fun, i've never tried it before.
父: Your shittin me? Really? Oh I gotta try it! I have grape and apple flavors at my house, next time we hang out maybe ill bust it out!
HB: Yeah!
In my case I run my seeds like I would run a routine stack. I know which cards I have to play to seed, I just need to know what things might interest her that I can offer as a DHV. Think about what you can offer a girl that hangs out with you? I think Angel put it best he said something like, "What can you offer a girl other than your cock?" Think about it. Why should she hang out with you? Those reasons you come up with is what you want to seed, you just gotta calibrate for each girl.
My apartment is full of fun s**t. I have a lot of hobbies and things that I do/try and I am pretty knowledgeable about Nagoya. Some things I might seed include:
Karaoke (im a good singer)
Pictures on my computer
Pictures on my wall
Purikura
Turntables and mixing music at my house
Watching a movie on my projector
Playing Love Jenga
Coloring books
Fireworks
Hookah
Darts
Oil Painting
Cooking together (f*****g GOLD)*
[s]Riding on my motorcycle[/s] (R.I.P.)
Going to Don Quoite
Playing Wii
Playing Wii fit
Going to a Korean restaurant*
Going to a chinese restaurant*
Going to any restaurant that I am familiar with or tastes good
f**k..... I could go on and on...
I starred (*) those three things on the list because at first glance they don't stand out as "unique" things to seed. Because the reality is everything is only as interesting as you make it sound. Think of yourself as a salesman, why would a certain place or activity appeal to her? Better yet, how can you make it sound appealing? That's what seperates the good players from the bad ones. The guys I know with the most game command your attention and make the most boring story or activity sound like A LOT OF FUN if they are involved somehow. Everyone's got friends like this too; "Oh s**t, Shane is coming to the party? Fuuuuuck that party is going to be craaazy, its gonna be off the hook!" And now you wanna go to the party really bad. You gotta be the same way with seeding.
Your not just cooking any ol hamburger at your house... Your gonna be cooking this ultra secret reciepe you learned from a blind man in Panama who taught you the secret to bringing your patty to the perfect broil and its more delcious than anything she has ever tasted in her LIFE you can bet on it!
父: Lets go for Chinese then!
HB: Ehh... Chinese sure I guess.
父: Whoa whoa whoa... this ain't no Lo Wang's Chicken shack i'm taking about... I'm talking about the Chef is a Kung-fu master turned Kitchen master...this guy like does Kung-fu when he's chopping up your General Tao Chicken, it's unbelivable! And his son... Swooping Tiger knuckle can knock out 30 mizugyoza the size of your palm in 2minutes!
HB: Your so full of s**t hahaha... sounds interesting though
父: Thats right... Kung-fu Chinese... it's on then, im going to take you and your gonna s**t more bricks than the great wall!
My point is that if I seed 6 or 7 of those things I listed above as fun things to do together, it just gives her all the more reason to hang out with me.
After talking for a while its almost like a no-brainer to keep in contact with me. Who else is going to offer her all those things to do together. It also makes me an interesting guy and someone who isn't going to f**k her and run because she can picture us enjoying these things together.
There is one last point I failed to touch on but I did bring up in the other thread. If you can make it sexual, definitely do so!
You don't want her to come all the way to your house to actually ONLY do coloring books. You want enough sexual tension and innuendos so that if she agrees to come over for "coloring books" (plausible deniability) and then just so happens to be seduced by you...shes not a slut for only going to your house for sex...afterall we both know the real reason was because she REALLY wanted to color in that coloring book!
25 Sep 2008, 2:32 pm
