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frodosam
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28 Jan 2009, 3:25 am

Do they exist?
Do guys like them?

I think they do, and I think they do better than nice boys. It's more culturally acceptable to have the qualities of niceness if you're female, and it makes you more attractive. In that case, what is niceness? That's what I'm having trouble defining. Take the cliche love story where a kind, lovely woman meets a man who is proud, arrogant and perhaps a little mean to her. Nice woman, bad guy. End of story. It's oestrogen vs testosterone.



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28 Jan 2009, 3:26 am

I'm a nasty girl :x



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28 Jan 2009, 3:34 am

I'm a something. But I like nice guys.



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28 Jan 2009, 3:35 am

No, I'm not really. Every one calls me baby girl or sweetie :wink:



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28 Jan 2009, 3:37 am

I'm a nice girl.



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28 Jan 2009, 3:38 am

Women can be proud of being nice. Men don't seem too so much.



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28 Jan 2009, 3:44 am

frodosam wrote:
Do they exist?


On television and in books. :P

frodosam wrote:
Do guys like them?


No. That's why those shows and books are usually watched and read by women. :P

frodosam wrote:
I think they do, and I think they do better than nice boys. It's more culturally acceptable to have the qualities of niceness if you're female, and it makes you more attractive. In that case, what is niceness? That's what I'm having trouble defining. Take the cliche love story where a kind, lovely woman meets a man who is proud, arrogant and perhaps a little mean to her. Nice woman, bad guy. End of story. It's oestrogen vs testosterone.


She probably picked him to make her daddy mad, that's not very nice. :o


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28 Jan 2009, 3:52 am

People seem to read too much into the word "nice" for how little meaning it has. It might be appropriate in the context of "you're a nice guy, but"-rejections, but the reasons why things aren't working out are surely more profound than just being nice. I know plenty of guys who are, broadly speaking, nice enough, and have found someone.



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28 Jan 2009, 4:06 am

Hector wrote:
People seem to read too much into the word "nice" for how little meaning it has. It might be appropriate in the context of "you're a nice guy, but"-rejections, but the reasons why things aren't working out are surely more profound than just being nice. I know plenty of guys who are, broadly speaking, nice enough, and have found someone.



^Exactly. I never once in my life heard a guy say, "I don't like that girl because she is nice". :wink: :lol:


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28 Jan 2009, 4:07 am

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It might be appropriate in the context of "you're a nice guy, but"-rejections,


Women who say that are definately not nice. They fall into the catergory of women who are golddiggers, and women who trick a man into raising a baby that is not his own. :x



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28 Jan 2009, 4:17 am

A turn-off for me, can be "over-exaggerated niceness". I've seen this before and it can come off as very fake and unflattering. :eew:



EDIT: This applies to real-life interactions only(specific situations). It's usually impossible to affirm on a computer.


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28 Jan 2009, 4:24 am

To me the best woman isn't exactly nice. She is assertive and then she doesn't have to resort to bitchiness.
I have never thought of myself as being nice but most people I know say I'm lovely. My girlfriends say 'I'm beautiful.' I find this flattering because I am just being who i am.

I have struggled to be assertive and resort to being aggressive and come across as a nasty girl :x but I have a friend who - she use to piss me off but as I got to know her I realised how nice she was and that she was just being assertive. I love being around people like that. It teaches me skills and gives me a sense of confidence.



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28 Jan 2009, 4:46 am

Nice people can be assertive tbh.

"Nice" is a rather loose definition.



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28 Jan 2009, 5:14 am

There is a saying that nice girls always lose and b*****s get ahead.



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28 Jan 2009, 5:37 am

BellaDonna wrote:
There is a saying that nice girls always lose and b*****s get ahead.


Uh...maybe.... But b*****s only have one place with me, behind me kissing my.... Generally a bitchy person will meet with the full force of my a...hole side, I have no time for nasty people.

I do however like a bit of assertiveness, or a bit of hardass. I just couldn't be bothered to make certain decisions, and I have found assertive girls will crack the whip a bit to get me up and going. Hanging with such have caused me to get out more, meet some nice people, and generally improve my selfesteem. the negative is that I normally develop a crush on them, and then I get the "I just want to be friends" speech.

Nice girls will however, as part of their nice nature, make sure I am at ease, so their company is enjoyed a lot. Problem is they tend to develop crushes on me.......I cannot do the "I just want to be friends" speech. I just ignore it and hope it goes away.


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28 Jan 2009, 5:38 am

BellaDonna wrote:
There is a saying that nice girls always lose and b*****s get ahead.


Yeah sometimes that is all too true.. but anyone that calls me a b***h, I just remember the acronym a friend of mine put to it... Being In Total Control (of) Her/Himself.