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Abstract_Logic
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04 Mar 2009, 1:04 am

It is 11:50 PM here in Chicago, IL. I'm sitting here drinking a small glass of wine, and I'm not sure what to do. I don't have many people to interact with at the moment. I have friends on AIM, but most of them are not responding, or are not signed on.

I am kind of feeling a bit on the blue side. See, there is this girl who works at my school's library. She is very nice and always smiles and says hi to me whenever I'm at the library, and she is actually the only girl who does that, or who has EVER done that. My problem is that I want to ask her out on a date, but I'm not sure when the right time for that is. My directness and social forthrightness has ALWAYS been a turn off in my past failed attempts to date someone. So I'm not sure about exactly HOW I should ask her out. Usually there is a bit of conversation between the male and female before the male asks her out. I don't know what I should say or how I should approach her.

Can someone give me some advice on this?



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04 Mar 2009, 3:00 am

Ask her for a book recommendation... then ask her out for coffee to talk about it. Or just ask directly to have dinner and a walk some night, or even take her down to the Green Door for a drink or two. Some people are put off by it, others intrigued, when you are direct - but you can't base her reaction off of those in your past. Take a chance!


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04 Mar 2009, 6:19 am

I like the book recommendation idea.


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04 Mar 2009, 11:07 am

she is just being nice and friendly to everyone. i was fooled by smiling charismatic women at the library too. but if you ask her out she will freak out and think you are stalking her. as an aspergers man you can NOT tell if she likes you or not. you are probably mistaking friendliness for romance :( but this does not mean that you cannot stop by and chat with her about books you like and jobs in the library. best thing is to print out a business card with your name and phone number and email. you can just casually hand it to her and say that if she ever wants to go out for a cup of coffee after work she should feel free to call contact. chances are she is an NT woman who is just friendly to people. but it could also be that she a temporary worker who would be interested in going out with. if she does not call you back, forget it. DO NOT PUSH IT. jeff



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04 Mar 2009, 12:27 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
she is just being nice and friendly to everyone. i was fooled by smiling charismatic women at the library too. but if you ask her out she will freak out and think you are stalking her. as an aspergers man you can NOT tell if she likes you or not. you are probably mistaking friendliness for romance :( but this does not mean that you cannot stop by and chat with her about books you like and jobs in the library. best thing is to print out a business card with your name and phone number and email. you can just casually hand it to her and say that if she ever wants to go out for a cup of coffee after work she should feel free to call contact. chances are she is an NT woman who is just friendly to people. but it could also be that she a temporary worker who would be interested in going out with. if she does not call you back, forget it. DO NOT PUSH IT. jeff


Your personal experience does not equate to his scenario; please remember that. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


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04 Mar 2009, 1:06 pm

absolutely - there's plenty of nice girls working in temp library positions who are looking to meet someone. but as an aspie you have to be extra careful because you won't know when you've crossed that line between appropriate and inappropriate.



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04 Mar 2009, 1:09 pm

Never pull in the library - just dont. Its the worst place to try it. Find out what else she does and accidentally show up to it.



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04 Mar 2009, 1:18 pm

Kangoogle wrote:
Never pull in the library - just dont. Its the worst place to try it. Find out what else she does and accidentally show up to it.


that's kind of like stalking...

library is a safe place for her, plus you can always repair the conversation by talking about books or asking her to help you find a book.



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04 Mar 2009, 1:20 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


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yes, but aspies have a tendency to mistake friendliness for romance and to engage in wishful thinking. you should try to meet women, but be aware of your tendencies.



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04 Mar 2009, 2:26 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
Kangoogle wrote:
Never pull in the library - just dont. Its the worst place to try it. Find out what else she does and accidentally show up to it.


that's kind of like stalking...

library is a safe place for her, plus you can always repair the conversation by talking about books or asking her to help you find a book.

As long as she does not know that you are stalking her - does it matter? Plus he might find a reason to not want to date her.

Though obviously we can have no idea if she fancies her...



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05 Mar 2009, 12:04 am

i think Abstract_Logic should go talk to this girl and tell us how it went. we are all intrigued. :)



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05 Mar 2009, 1:49 am

Learning2Survive wrote:
i think Abstract_Logic should go talk to this girl and tell us how it went. we are all intrigued. :)


haha. well then I suppose that less talking and asking for advice and more DOING would be a good first step in the difficult process of dating. tomorrow is Thursday March 5th, 2009, and it is the day that will either: 1. Go down as an honorable moment in Aspie History; or 2. Be the day that I will regret for the rest of my life...well, for the next few years, at least.

So I thank everyone in this topic for all your advice, even if your attempt at giving advice was a bit...unsettling *winks at Kangoogle ;)

I will report my results in this topic tomorrow evening. Thank you and good night. : 8)



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05 Mar 2009, 12:16 pm

let me share the most embarrassing stories about my life so you do not feel bad about your situation.

i once tried to pick up an asian woman by asking her to write how to say "i love you" on a piece of paper. five minutes later i realized this was totally random and extremely embarassing and inappropriate. needless to say i never tried to pick up a woman ever again.

when i was in high school this NT girl introduced herself to me and said that she liked me. she had two girlfriends on left and right and she just stood staring at me and her friends were saying "jeff, she likes you, you should dance with her." that was really embarassing too cuz she probably thought i was NT (being wide shouldered and tall for my age) and then she said that i am a funny person. i felt very ridiculed at the time.

i think we should have a private males only forum to discuss embarrassing pick up/dating attempts. the females on this forum would freak out and misunderstand us males if we really get all that dating stuff out there.



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05 Mar 2009, 12:21 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
let me share the most embarrassing stories about my life so you do not feel bad about your situation.

i once tried to pick up an asian woman by asking her to write how to say "i love you" on a piece of paper. five minutes later i realized this was totally random and extremely embarassing and inappropriate. needless to say i never tried to pick up a woman ever again.

when i was in high school this NT girl introduced herself to me and said that she liked me. she had two girlfriends on left and right and she just stood staring at me and her friends were saying "jeff, she likes you, you should dance with her." that was really embarassing too cuz she probably thought i was NT (being wide shouldered and tall for my age) and then she said that i am a funny person. i felt very ridiculed at the time.

i think we should have a private males only forum to discuss embarrassing pick up/dating attempts. the females on this forum would freak out and misunderstand us males if we really get all that dating stuff out there.

Read "the Game"...



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05 Mar 2009, 12:27 pm

Kangoogle wrote:
Read "the Game"...


dating is a combination of

intuition
genetics
skill

reading a book can make you THINK you know how to play the game, but only that.



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05 Mar 2009, 12:32 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
Kangoogle wrote:
Read "the Game"...


dating is a combination of

intuition
genetics
skill

reading a book can make you THINK you know how to play the game, but only that.

I get laid as and when I want to actually :)