What's the Point In Love
Why do wes strive for love of another. Why does it matter. I've been thinking to myself and...what's the point of having sex or even getting married. Ther's no point. want to know why?
When you die will it matter who you were married to...No!! !......all that matters is that you lived your life rightSociety puts too much emphasis on stuff that doesn't matter.
the only thing that matters in life is amarse=love of one's self....and dinero=money. We cannot control who loves us or not. Many people including aspie males...we hate ourselves because someone else doesnt love us back or think we are weird. it's stupid. come on...how stupid is that.
None of us are here to get the approval of anyone else. like 50 cent says..."Get rich or die trying"...that should be the motif of everone's life. it means..."love yourself and live a finacially stabled life"......we dont need to be loved by anyone else.
money isnt everything but it sure does make life a heck of a lot easier. we should forgive the bullies in our life. forgive all the women that treated us like crap. God bless them, they dont know what they are doing.
I'm a lover, I'm a nice guy, I'm sweet, and oh yeah I'm obsessive too. If I have to be alone because of that then so be it.
The only reason many women love "this so called confidence that the perceive" is because they are not confident in themselves.
I mean how confident is a person who is attracted to a person that acts like a jerk towards them? not so much.
Men and women should love themselves equally.
True confidence is being able to be a nice person and follow your own path without letting societies beliefs get in the way.
society says a man should be a player. i say be what you want.
This is one reason I like older women. older women are confident enough to accept a nice guy/person.
to all those girls who didnt reply to me they don't know what their missing out on....because I'm the "_______" .....
so the only things in life that amtter are amarse and dinero...and "____" all the rest of the superfical crap.
I agree, love of one's self is important for happiness.
But money is not important at all.
What is important is our relationship with nature, animals and plants. We have to have our personal morals and believe in karma and improve ourselves.
There's no reason to wait till you're 50 to become anywhere near wise. You can start now as a young person.
Meditate, think for yourself, ingest mushrooms and other entheogenic plants that will offer you divine experiences. They are growing around us for a reason.
Experience teaches only the teachable!
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for me, Love is massively important;
the love of my partner helps me cut through the self-tormet and (almost) self-loating that have been built up of so many years without anyone who even thought me "nice". He is amazing and wonderful; I cannot think of a time if I didn't have him by my side
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very very true; it isnt a number one goal; for a long time I thougth it was; and when i started to think it wasnt, providence came through...
just need to get my career fully on track etc :s
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Well, while it is true that you do not need love to function as a human being, it has a nice psychological effect to know that someone cares for you, it is especially nice if you have felt lonely all your life.
So, what is love for?
I cannot think of any practical use for love. Maby it is one of those "bond for life and raise the kids" biological things that are implanted into some species.
(not all species though, sometimes the male runs off leaving the female to care for the cubs, and sometimes the male is left alone to care for the hatchlings when the female flies away - nature is funny like that).
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That might work for you, jb - but it isn't a universal answer for everyone, every person on the spectrum, or even every member here. Money is not important in my world; it is a necessary evil, but if the need for it went away I'd be a happier man for the freedom from it. People experience self-loathing for many reasons... it isn't only because of rejection, or because of feeling isolated. I disagree that confidence attracts due to a lack of confidence... in my experience and in observing the interactions of those close to me whilst in relationships, it appears to me that the more confident the woman, the more confidence she is seeking in a mate. Same in turn for men, though it is important to distinguish between confidence and bravura. This is in no way absolute, but it may provide you a point to think about. In the end... did I live well? Did I share in it with others? If so, then I have been successful. The point of love is not in being loved - the point of love is in loving.
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It does matter who you're married to when you die if they've let you live a happy life right until the end. I'm not planning on proposing to my girlfriend just because 'society tells me to.' It's because she makes me happier than anything or anyone else, including my obsessions, and I want to be with her forever.
People with aspergers are not doing themselves a favor by trying to fit into the cultural mold.
Don't look for love, try to love yourself and you'll find love sooner or later.
The problem with AS people is they don't love themselves. You need to discover the wonder that is inside of you.
It's INSIDE of YOU.
I seriously don't get why there's all this advice to "love yourself"... Love of oneself is the very definition of narcissism...
I seriously don't get why there's all this advice to "love yourself"... Love of oneself is the very definition of narcissism...
Disagree, TOS; obsessive and fixated love of self to the exclusion of others is narcissistic behavior. If you don't find things about yourself to love and appreciate, how in the heck do you expect another person in this world to do the same? You know you better than anyone... ever stop to think that another person might look at how you treat yourself before determining how to treat you, using it as an example?
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On a perfectly pragmatic level, I think we were made to fall in love so that the species would survive. It makes us procreate, and it keeps us caring for those we brought into the world, and maintaining a balanced and (hopefully) effective family unit.
Love can be a great thing in that a solid relationship will teach you to be your better self. It's kind of complicated to explain, but that is what a positive relationship gives you, probably more importantly than anything else.
But it shouldn't be pursued just because one thinks one should. You need to be happy and secure in yourself, you need to get to a certain place in your life journey. Society, in my opinion, oversells it, thus bringing a lot of people into relationships that aren't positive for anyone involved. It is far better to be alone than in a destructive relationship, yet so many people don't get that.
We are all given different journeys in this life, and the purpose of life is to make the most of that journey, instead of obsessing over what is on the road a few blocks over. I have no way of knowing what will come to you over time on your life's journey. But I do know that if you stay open to the opportunities, and let go of the frustrations, it will be the one you were meant to take.
It's a funny thing. In my early thirties I finally got really comfortable in my life, happy with it. I was single, I had a career, and I was making small differences for the world in my own little way. When I first met my now husband, I felt something different, I saw a connection, but he wasn't in the right life space and our ships simply passed each other by. Two years later he asked me out. I was taken quite by surprise. I had finally, truly, accepted the idea of being single all my life, and had to change that vision. It was a bit of a difficult adjustment back, lol. He's a very sweet, very shy, very underconfident but brilliant Aspie. We've ended up bringing a lot to each other. Allowed ourselves to become our better selves. It's often been rough, but the process is rich.
Women are not attracted to jerks. They are misled by them. It's a big difference.
But you won't really see and get all that until you let go of all the assumptions society has pushed upon you. That you must date, who you must date, how you must date. You should live life for yourself. That you want to discard all the merchandise sold to you is probably a good place to start.
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I seriously don't get why there's all this advice to "love yourself"... Love of oneself is the very definition of narcissism...
And yet ...
One who isn't comfortable in their own skin has nothing to give to a relationship. It's a bit different than conceit or narcissim, what most people mean here. It's more about accepting yourself, being happy with what your life is, instead of worrying about what it is not. Sometimes people need to go through a "me" period in order to give more and give it better. When you try to give to world from a weak place, the throw tends to fall short. When you try to give to the world from a position of self-knowledge and confidence, the throw is more likely to hit it's target. It is actually usually a step in becoming LESS self-centered.
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I said insecure women go with jerks because they think it is confidence and they dont know what confidence is. and confident women like a guy who is confident enough to be himslef, nice guy, and not a jerk. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. money is not everything you are right. but do you want the stupid government does all the time to determine how u live.
for example:
wasting 10 million dollars a month on war
throwing all the money to rich people
taxing the middle class without tax cuts
that stuff leads to recession. i mean the economy is going to get better....but who's going to be the next Clown as our president. the cycle keeps going. good econmy, bad. when people have enough money they wont have to stress about the next president or who to give tax cuts to, because when your candidate loses you're still mad anyways. It's stupid. taht's why i say....be wealthy and forget about the rest of the drama. oh yea....also share money too lol
Please read the entire passage; thank you. Being wealthy doesn't make you above the issues; it makes you a target. Money comes, money goes - you're stuck with yourself for your entire life. And where did the government suddenly rear up and show its ugly head? As that wasn't part of anything I'd mentioned. Again... the point of love is in loving, not in being loved. The premise of withholding love until it is shown to you will do more to eliminate it from your world than invite it.
M.
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My thanks to all the wonderful members here; I will miss the opportunity to continue to learn and work with you.
For those who seek an alternative, it is coming.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
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