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princesseli
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02 Jun 2009, 4:18 am

I might be wrong, from reading posts here and there it seems that the aspie females dont have much problems with getting into relationships, its always the aspie males that cant get significant others. I see many topics about aspie females and their trouble with relationships not have trouble with getting a significant others. In fact, there seems to be a lot of girls that marry early? As in many of them are able to start dating and find significant others not much later then your normal NT female or even around the same time?
Thats just the perception that I've gathered. Or are their many out there that have a lot of trouble finding a significant other and find it fustrating?



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02 Jun 2009, 4:58 am

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I might be wrong, from reading posts here and there it seems that the aspie females dont have much problems with getting into relationships, its always the aspie males that cant get significant others. I see many topics about aspie females and their trouble with relationships not have trouble with getting a significant others. In fact, there seems to be a lot of girls that marry early? As in many of them are able to start dating and find significant others not much later then your normal NT female or even around the same time?
Thats just the perception that I've gathered. Or are their many out there that have a lot of trouble finding a significant other and find it fustrating?


I find it a bit misleading... there are likely others out there having problems. I've had my fair share of them but a lot of it was due to being naive and all, it wasn't hard to get a guy due to my "looks" or my "assets", just can't seem to find one that values my intelligence and all and seems to be a good one to keep.



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02 Jun 2009, 5:56 am

Similar. I think I could get a guy if I wanted to, but I seem to have a lot of trouble forming a romantic attachment to anyone. It only happens very very occasionally, and often the guy I do get attached to just so happens to be the guy who doesn't like me back.

So far, I've been in one relationship which spanned 7 months while I was 19.


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02 Jun 2009, 6:07 am

It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


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02 Jun 2009, 6:26 am

MR_BOGAN wrote:
It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


That argument seems counter-intuitive to me.


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02 Jun 2009, 6:35 am

MR_BOGAN wrote:
It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


I don't think this is the case. If anything, it's probably more to do with society.


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02 Jun 2009, 6:37 am

Yes, men with Aspergers are either oblivious to the fact that they are so eccentric when asking a woman out, and then get depressed about it, or don't care and push the envelope and get into strife. Whereas women with Aspergers can't tell whether a guy is asking them out just for a root or if they genuinely love them. Even some non-Aspergers women can't pick that at times, so what chance have those with Aspergers got. Obviously therefore, statistically non-Aspergers men will ask Aspergers women out a lot more often than Aspergers men will ask non-Aspergers women out. Hence the disparity.

Even the most eligible men are attracted mainly by looks, whereas women are a lot more complicated, they want to know about the man's income, personality, goals in life, and of course to a lesser degree, looks as well. Sux to be a man with Aspergers! Ah well



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02 Jun 2009, 6:47 am

In breeding if a female and male get together for :heart: , because the female has the child it is more critial she picks the right partner, because she is going to get pregent and needs to be looked after etc... Where as a male doesn't.

Also if you think about genetics a male is less picky and has :heart: with many females. His genetics will be spreed out more. A female can't spread her genes out like that.


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02 Jun 2009, 8:44 am

makuranososhi wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


That argument seems counter-intuitive to me.


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What he's talking about is a proved scientific fact and not some idealism bla bla.



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02 Jun 2009, 8:57 am

MR_BOGAN wrote:
In breeding if a female and male get together for :heart: , because the female has the child it is more critial she picks the right partner, because she is going to get pregent and needs to be looked after etc... Where as a male doesn't.

Also if you think about genetics a male is less picky and has :heart: with many females. His genetics will be spreed out more. A female can't spread her genes out like that.


thus dating would be harder for females as they will have a difficult time finding someone who meets their criterior.

dating would be easier for those who are less fussy.

also these statements do not take into account the difficulties of running a relationship.

I think getting a relationship is only the beginning of the troubles for those with aspergers.



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02 Jun 2009, 8:58 am

More males are born than females. In the age for pairing off, late teens through the 20s, there are more men than women. Women are also pickier, want it less, all contributing to an imbalance which dictates that there will be leftover men. Since the women are in greater demand, and therefore have more market value, their imperfections will penalize them less, and they can get away with being more demanding about other aspects such as income. Men with various imperfections, such as Asperger's, are likely to end up in the leftover group, hence a major cause of distress for them. The law of supply and demand dictates that men will value women generally more than women value men. Nobody is to blame for this, it's just how the numbers work out.


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02 Jun 2009, 9:01 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


That argument seems counter-intuitive to me.


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What he's talking about is a proved scientific fact and not some idealism bla bla.


LPP, you've yet to offer me any "scientific fact" beyond your own experience in our past discussion (save one citation, that I recall), so I leave the question to you - how exactly do you argue that it is easier for the selector? In many species it is the male who has methods of subterfuge and deception to appear a better-than-actual mate to his prospective partner... the process of determination would make that role its own challenge. Rather than be dismissive, I invite you to make an argument.


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02 Jun 2009, 9:16 am

makuranososhi wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
It's biology, females are more picky than males. So dating in general is harder for males. :shrug:


That argument seems counter-intuitive to me.


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What he's talking about is a proved scientific fact and not some idealism bla bla.


LPP, you've yet to offer me any "scientific fact" beyond your own experience in our past discussion (save one citation, that I recall), so I leave the question to you - how exactly do you argue that it is easier for the selector? In many species it is the male who has methods of subterfuge and deception to appear a better-than-actual mate to his prospective partner... the process of determination would make that role its own challenge. Rather than be dismissive, I invite you to make an argument.


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02 Jun 2009, 9:38 am

Female AS persons are usually more social in general.
This is a neurological difference.

Basicly the AS person is more "System builder" and less "Social Interactor"
The male brain is generally more wired towards the "System Builder" type and the female the "Social Interactor" so it's just natural for AS-females to be better at social interactions than AS-males.

Also men flirt with women far more openly than women with men so it's easier for AS-females to notice advancements whereas us AS-males usually are even more oblivious than NT-males when it comes to girls flirting with us. :roll:



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02 Jun 2009, 10:09 am

Xs142 wrote:
Female AS persons are usually more social in general.
This is a neurological difference.

Basicly the AS person is more "System builder" and less "Social Interactor"
The male brain is generally more wired towards the "System Builder" type and the female the "Social Interactor" so it's just natural for AS-females to be better at social interactions than AS-males.

Also men flirt with women far more openly than women with men so it's easier for AS-females to notice advancements whereas us AS-males usually are even more oblivious than NT-males when it comes to girls flirting with us. :roll:


what evidence do you have for AS females being more social than AS males.



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02 Jun 2009, 10:15 am

lotusblossom wrote:
Xs142 wrote:
Female AS persons are usually more social in general.
This is a neurological difference.

Basicly the AS person is more "System builder" and less "Social Interactor"
The male brain is generally more wired towards the "System Builder" type and the female the "Social Interactor" so it's just natural for AS-females to be better at social interactions than AS-males.

Also men flirt with women far more openly than women with men so it's easier for AS-females to notice advancements whereas us AS-males usually are even more oblivious than NT-males when it comes to girls flirting with us. :roll:


what evidence do you have for AS females being more social than AS males.


My bad, not more social but better at social interactions.
The basis from my statement comes from Simon Baron-Cohen and his research and also a few years of University studies,
read more at http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/200 ... tion/print

And yes I'm aware of the statement in the article that sex does not determine brain-type, however the development of our sex involves a 'mold' in which we're shaped at first which forces us further to either side. (Androgens, fetal stages and alot more..)