Your views on Goths

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My parents in genaral do not like goths, I think this is because they don't understand why goths do the things that they do. They are just misunderstood, ignored people who have different ways of expressing their feelings. My mom wouldn't let me buy a long leather coat because she said it looked too "columbine." What the f**k is that about? I understand what she means but COME ON!! !! ! Any thoughts on how I can make her become less bigoted? She also banned me from shopping @ Hot Topic.

Scary in a cool way.

My thoughts on goths...
Well, I think they're ok. They're just people who like to dress the way that they do, act the way that they do etc. I have no problem with them what so ever.

I don't know how to change your mothers views on goths, sorry. What I can say though, is banning you from a shop is REALLY ignorant!

I fink goths r ok n i don't see anythin wrong gettin a long leather coat at all.

in general, you are likely to find more people who dont give a rats behind on the really dumb kind of social majority rules among goths (or similar subcultures)
no guarantee, though... there are idiot goths as well. i find i fit there a tad better than elsewhere. and their music is better (at least here in europe... stateside goths seem to be a completely different thing)

i dont know what exactly the scene is like where you live... but my parents were won over when they just met a few of the gang, who happened to be literate, intelligent beings, not prone to sacrificing children or any other criminal activity.
with your mother banning you from a store, i guess shes afraid youll get into something dangerous. so information should be the best cure.

i can understand your mom's concern. I almost banned my son from watching "deathnote" (It's an anime show), because he always walks around so morbid. However, once we sat down and talked, I decided I was over-reacting. We parent's tend to do that. Hopefully, affter talking tour mom, she will lighten up a little.

I think the way the Romans treated them was a little harsh, but I guess they got theirs in the end.

Maybe she is just concerned for you, not wanting people to be prejudiced against you because of clothing. People are very judgemental. What I mean is, your mom might not be the bigoted one but just looking at the larger picture on your behalf.
(LOL, WurdBendur).

just ignore her and dress the way you like. your body, your clothes, your rules. it's not her buisness how you dress like -_-

Some of them seem nice.

Goths are cool.

At least most of the one I know are

goth boys? ew. goth chicks? HOT.
and i love that couple on the Amazing Race (TV show).

People can dress however they want, but I don't really get it. The ones I know go on and on about not conforming to society - so they just conform to another part of society. I wear a mix of clothing from Kohl's and Express - I look average, occasionally stylish, but not much thought goes into my appearance other than "I like this." I think I conform a lot less than people who put insane amounts of energy into dressing like one subculture or another. I'm sure not all goths are like this, but I don't really consider it cool or original. It seems like a ploy for attention by many people (again, I'm sure not all.)

When I was a teen, Goth wasn't big yet, but it was on its way. They don't bother me. I'm not concerned about my son or daughter becoming one, but if that is what they wanted it would be kind of hypocritical of me to tell them no since I was a punk rocker at that age.

i have heard this kind of criticism before, and the irony IS pretty funny, how they all want to be orginal just like everyone else... and maybe some do like attention, but, what's wrong with that?

i personally didn't really want attention, but i used to dress slighty "punk" because it was a quick and easy way to attract other people who liked similar music. also, i knew that if people were unfazed by it, then i would probably like them, and if they gave me snotty looks, then i knew they were not the kind of people i would get along with to begin with. a spiked dog collar shortened the whole "getting to know people" process pretty effectively... you get straight to both the weirdoes and the more tolerant people that way.

Goths are a more diverse group of people than most people realize. There are many different subsubcultures within the goth subculture. Not all goths shop at Hot Topic. In fact, a lot of goths hate Hot Topic. Some goths do not even look "goth"--they don't dress all in black or dye their hair black. They have other goth tastes and interests instead.

Hot Topic and the widely known goth look are associated with kids who are experimenting with being goth. For most, it will just be a phase. Others learn more about it, relate to it, and go beyond Hot Topic.

Goths are really just people with certain tastes and interests. There is goth music, writing, art, etc. Beyond that, it is not realistic to generalize.