Your views on Goths

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I myself was into the Goth scene until I dropped out of it in 2004. What originally drew me into the scene was the music. But also, I knew that I'd be able to fit right in, given that there were many Goths whom were introverted/introspective (as I was) and whom had creative/artistic inclinations. I have some good memories of my time in the scene.

There were several reasons why I dropped out of the scene, but I must admit that one of the reasons was that I eventually got fed up with the overall obnoxious/pretentious/elitist attitude of many of the people in the scene. Also, the scene itself (at least in my area) was gradually drifting away from being a Goth/industrial scene and turning into more of a bondage/fetish scene.

However, although I now consider myself a "former Goth", I still listen to a lot of the music that I listened to when I was in the scene.

And...even though I myself was into the scene I do agree with what some of you mentioned, that Goths don't want to conform to mainstream society, yet they go and conform to another part of society (their own subculture). Looking at it from that perspective, it is kind of silly.

I’m a goth. Well, not quite – I’m more a black metalhead and as far as I’ve been into the black scene most of the people there in the dark clubs for instance are really friendly. After all what I’ve experienced goths seem to be more tolerant and affable than the common standard type of the human species.

Oh yeah, flying Buttresses, Rose Windows, the whole heavy stone look, that says 'class'...

I felt a little Goth in my yute, although Goth came way after I finished college. Liked some of the early Cure, though had to give them the boot after 'Love Cats'...

Couldn't do the piercing bit, if that's part of it, though. Never make it as a teenager today..

I don't have any kind of a problem with goths. My friend actually thought I was goth before she knew me. I'm not though. I just tend to be drawn to black clothes and I like vampires and stuff. But yeah. I'm sorry you were banned from Hot Topic. I don't think I could live with that. Maybe you could try talking to your mom about how you respect her opinion (even if you don't) but you want to be your own person and have your own unique style. In a kind of heart-heart way. Make sure you don't come across having an attitude. Of course, I don't know your parents though, so I'm not sure how they'd react to that.

Pakled, who's that picture in your avatar?

*shrugs* ive never understood the purpose of terms like goths and chavs or the purpose of group identity's in general for that matter. i am me, i call myself by my first name as i would any other person. to be honest i have no real interest for fear induced NT conformist social patterns and very little respect for those who follow them. (no offence to anyone intended)

German dark/EBM/gothic music is one of my obsessions. I travel to gothic/EBM festivals to Germany (from Lithuania). And I like the appearance of typical EBM listeners.

Woodstage festival, Dark Storm festival. This year I will go to Amphi festival. They are not very big. Wave-Gotik-Treffen is a very big gothic festival. (but i will not attend it, it is too big for me).

I don't consider myself a "Goth", nor do I adopt a Goth look, but I do have a fondness for horror/dark fantasy stories and art that other people consider "morbid".
I also listen to music genres that fall within the general umbrella label of the Goth scene (Darkwave, etc.), and occasionaly go to Goth or Industrial shows and hang out with people who consider themselves Goths or Rivetheads or have an interest in the aforementioned scenes.

Nearly all the goths I have ever met have been really nice people but they really need to cheer up. Miserable bunch the lot of them.

in my view there isn't really goth anymore. there's mallcore. bunch of kids in their early teens who troll by the Hot Topic and buy whatever they think is cool. my 14 year old cousin just dyed her hair black and got pre-ripped jeans. i learned something, pre-ripped jeans were an automatic sign of a poser when i was young and a decade later it still is. somethings never change.

...not like the real goths are much better. i used to run into a bunch of them at the Alley on Belmont in Chicago, and they're all just moody and disrespectful. they look at you with derision cause you're not part of their scene.

punk died in the last 70's, goth died in the 80's, grunge died in the 90's. all that survived was the fashion.