Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] 

pinkbowtiepumps
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 520
Location: US

01 Apr 2009, 12:37 am

What does it mean when a friend puts his/herself down all the time? I mean like saying "my artwork is awful, I'm just scraping by, it's nothing exceptional..." Are they looking for compliments or do they really think that lowly of themselves? I know some people want praise, but what is the usual reason behind doing this?



Shayne
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 419
Location: South Florida, USA Age: 24

01 Apr 2009, 12:53 am

really, only she can answer this question. others can only speculate.

did she say that she thinks lowly of herself? she maybe be 'thinking realistically', but her expression is percieved by you as thinking lowly of herself.

some of the difference could be whether this attitude discourages her or encourages her to motivate to try to do better.


_________________
Come play Scrabble .
Message me on WP . We will play.


Bluestocking
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 245

01 Apr 2009, 1:35 am

I've discovered it mostly to be "fishing for compliments". Sometimes I find a self-deprecating sense of humour to be funny and a good way of breaking the ice, since neurotypical people seem to want to be seen as having a healthy self esteem, but don't want to be seen as vain and arrogant, and that's their way of circumnavigating the "arrogant egomaniac" label. Least in my experience.



LeonKrahe
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 86
Location: New Jersey

01 Apr 2009, 1:39 am

I can't really speak for her, but I've got the same attitude, I just plain have low self-esteem and am a perfectionist, so I truly end up feeling nothing I do is of an adequate quality. Compliments do nothing for me.



Brittany2907
The ultimate storm is eternally on it's
The ultimate storm is eternally on it's

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jun 2007
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,718
Location: New Zealand

01 Apr 2009, 2:13 am

Your friend may set high standards for themselves & because they may seem like unreasonable standards to others, it may seem like she's 'fishing for compliments'. But yes, I would think some people just say things like that to get attention/praise but I know for me that the former is true.


_________________
I = Vegan!
Animals = Friends.


CrinklyCrustacean
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,284

01 Apr 2009, 2:21 am

There is a line between confidence and arrogance and this is one way of avoiding the latter. For example, Whistler (a famous painter) was once praised and the conversation went like this:

admirer: "There are only two great painters: you and Velazquez"
Whistler: "Why drag Velasquez into it?"

That's vanity and arrogance. It's just not polite to say, "thanks very much, I know I've produced a masterpiece." Then again, there's also a line beween polite self-deprecation and downright personal disservice where people don't allow themselves to enjoy the praise they are given.



Manders
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jul 2008
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,180
Location: 6 Underground

01 Apr 2009, 2:27 am

I do that sometimes, but with me it's really neither. Like when people compliment my artwork I usually respond with a thanks, but I'll tack on something like 'I'm kind of disappointed with the way it turned out', or something similar. I either don't know how to respond to the compliment, or I don't want to seem too proud by just saying 'thanks'.

But with a lot of people I know, it's all fishing for compliments. The people I know who are, in fact, really down on themselves don't flaunt their insecurity by making such comments.



Kenjitsuka
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 171
Location: Netherlands

02 Apr 2009, 5:32 pm

Quote:
I've got the same attitude, I just plain have low self-esteem and am a perfectionist, so I truly end up feeling nothing I do is of an adequate quality. Compliments do nothing for me.

SO true!! !!



pinkbowtiepumps
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 520
Location: US

04 Apr 2009, 1:36 am

Manders wrote:
But with a lot of people I know, it's all fishing for compliments. The people I know who are, in fact, really down on themselves don't flaunt their insecurity by making such comments.


Good point. This seems to be really true. Who would want to flaunt their insecurities anyway?



Dentu
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 116
Location: Central VA, USA

04 Apr 2009, 2:11 am

I do it a lot because I've got a really bad self-image. I put on a good face about it, but I disappoint myself in just about everything I do. I hold myself to standards I'd consider obnoxious to hold anyone else to.



aspiedude
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 55

04 Apr 2009, 1:12 pm

I slice it both ways. Sometimes I act like an arrogant a***hole to make people laugh. Think Ron Burgandy in "Anchorman". :)



RoisinDubh
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Age: 56
Gender: Female
Posts: 341
Location: Somewhere else entirely

04 Apr 2009, 1:23 pm

I do this constantly, to the point where others sometimes find it annoying. I know some people who do it fishing for compliments, but in my case, I honestly DO have a low opinion of myself....deserved or not....and often make a joke of it. Like other jokes, though, I apparently take it too far. :(


_________________
'I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man' -Oscar Wilde


andyroyd
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 1 Apr 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 8

05 Apr 2009, 1:13 am

I am often self-deprecating but my goal is to "fish" for honest responses. I tend to assume that most people will try to say positive stuff regardless of it's validity to avoid hurting the recipient's feelings. My strategy (however ineffective it tends to be) is to make it "ok" to say something bad in order to get their true feelings since I have trouble evaluating my own accomplishments.