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21 May 2009, 10:47 pm

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Meh, stay away from them. Don't drink underage; the rules are there for a reason.
I'd advise you not to drink at all. It's good that you weren't allowed to go; once you see alcohol, in a social setting, it's difficult to resist.

Wrong. The law is there for no good reason whatsoever. In Europe they have far more sensible drinking rules and as a result people drink more sensibly.

Yeah I heard that people in europe dont treat alcohol as a way just to get drunk, crazy and wasted. The drinking is used more in moderation, like drinking a beverage as opposed to just getting drunk.

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21 May 2009, 11:44 pm

Kangoogle wrote:

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Wrong. The law is there for no good reason whatsoever. In Europe they have far more sensible drinking rules and as a result people drink more sensibly.

All you are doing is encouraging him to damage his friendship groups for no good reason.

I agree, it's a stupid law.

However, it was written because somebody probably died because of drinking, so somebody thought it'd be a good idea to have a law prohibiting kids from consuming alcohol. Just another right regulated by a bunch of elected morons.

If you want to get me started with seatbelt and helmet laws...well I have an hour long filibuster for that topic. Pot too.

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22 May 2009, 12:11 am

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If by some chance, you are arrested, you simply don't struggle because you don't want them to have an opportunity to hit you. Then you ask the nice policeman (nicely) if they can give you a blood alcohol test asap. It will be very obvious that you didn't drink.

Also, don't use mouthwash if you're going to be in a situation like this since the alcohol in mouthwash will tip off the breathalyzer. Even though you spit out mouthwash, it's designed so that some of the alcohol stays in your mouth as a germ killer.

princesseli wrote:

Kangoogle wrote:

MathGirl wrote:

Wrong. The law is there for no good reason whatsoever. In Europe they have far more sensible drinking rules and as a result people drink more sensibly.

Yeah I heard that people in europe dont treat alcohol as a way just to get drunk, crazy and wasted. The drinking is used more in moderation, like drinking a beverage as opposed to just getting drunk.

That's not just in Europe, that's everywhere. I'm not in Europe, yet I'm drinking a beer right now, I'm nowhere near drunk, I'm not even buzzed, I'm just drinking one because I like the taste of a quality beer, in this case Magic Hat #9 from Burlington VT.

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22 May 2009, 2:03 am

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Well some judges do cocaine, but it's fine as long as they don't get caught. :wall:

FFFFFFFFFin mentality of it all.

So do presidents, the past 4 for example.

let's see, the past four are

1. George W. Bush,
2. Bill Clinton,
3. George HW Bush
4. Ronald Reagan

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22 May 2009, 8:22 am

Kangoogle wrote:

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What part of Europe are you reffering to? I mean in England there are loads of people, underage or not who go out and get hammered every week.

Anyway even with the law people can just stay indoors and get drunk and probably won't get caught.

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22 May 2009, 9:11 am

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Ugh, my group of friends of about 15 (only 5 or so are really my friends, the rest are just there) are going to a cottage, and I was allowed to go until I found out drinking is allowed. MY FRIENDS ARE 16! (One 17) It's not even f***ing legal, and because of their stupidity I can't go. Ugh!

Do you want to go there and drink? If you do then you're just as stupid as what they are.

I hate drink, it's horrible to do and I've never seen the point really. Despite the fact 95% of all people I know the same age as me or around my age go out and get pissed every weekend, and it's ridiculous IMO, as all you're basically doing is destroying your liver.

Drinking is good. You are jealous of people who have a social life, so think its a good idea to drag someone down on the spectrum who does. Just spiteful in all honesty.

I'm pretty sure that's why the term 'IMO' was used as it is his opinion and he's not dragging anyone down.

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22 May 2009, 11:38 am

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Kangoogle wrote:

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In Germany the legal drinking age is 12, but you don't often hear about 12 year olds getting cocked. The difference here is that in the US, you get your license at 16 or 17, you legally become an adult at 18, but even though you're considered an independant legal adult, you still have to wait 3 years before you can drink. By the time German kids turn 21, they've already gotten past the point where you realize that alcoholic beverages aren't all about getting drunk every time. Then again, in Germany, you can take a beer with you on the subway on your way to work.

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24 May 2009, 8:49 pm

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By the time German kids turn 21, they've already gotten past the point where you realize that alcoholic beverages aren't all about getting drunk every time. Then again, in Germany, you can take a beer with you on the subway on your way to work.

Ich wohnen auf Deutschland fur drei jahren(I hope that came out correct) I lived in Germany for three years, and he's correct. I had to provide escort for some German contractors for a few weeks, and at lunch, out came the Schnapps. Even at the fests, I'd see some younger kids with beer or wine at the tables with the braten and brotchen, just having a meal like at home.

You have to understand, it's their culture that has been around for quite a few centuries. Same for the other European countries. They've had the tradition of consuming alcohol with meals and in social settings for ages, and they're hardpressed to change that because of some others values. The reason we don't have that kind of value comes from prohibition and MADD. Someone else wants to control the habits they deem inappropriate or dangerous. Remember, this is for your safety and the safety of our children. (I say poppycock)

Europeans are far more responsible about alcohol consumption than Americans. See if you can figure out why?

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25 May 2009, 1:23 am

What about Australians. Our currency used to be RUM. Talk about drinking your earnings away.

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25 May 2009, 7:18 am

The law seems reasonable to me. When you're younger, it's easier to surrender to alcohol under the pressure of your peers. Later in life, though, you realize that not all things your friends do are good for you. I drank a couple of times before I found out the effects that alcohol drinks have on your brain, and then I discontinued. I do regret drinking now, and wish that I have been restrained/informed about it earlier. I thought drinking was good because it made me more outgoing and NT-like.

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25 May 2009, 1:43 pm

Sweden here.

Legal drinking age (pubs/clubs) is 18, but you cannot buy alcoholic beverages from stores until you are 21. As for driving while intoxicated = Zero tolerance. Anything higher than 0 parts per million in the blood and the police will fine you.

Europe is far from an alcohol-liberal continent. I have heard the same false argument being said about the US: "Oh, people in over there can drink in any way they want".

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25 May 2009, 2:34 pm

exactly why you DONT TELL YOUR PARENTS THINGS LIKE THAT. duh.

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25 May 2009, 6:03 pm

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normally_impaired wrote:

I remember in my youth how the idea of a 'three martini lunch' was the business man's prerogative. I remember when hard liquor was the drinking man's choice and people died behind the wheel because busting drunk driving was not a priority. Drinking age was 17 for 3.2 beer where I grew up( and I looked 17 very early.) Times have changed and now there are far more societal safety nets about that. I am glad. I don't drink, but I don't want a drunk driver to hit anyone.

what is all of this us vs them mentality about Europeans and Americans, anyway? Did someone decide there was a rivalry?

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