Sweetleaf wrote:
Its not that he did not like what he had to play........its that he just does not give a damn about music and wants to call himself a musician.
if he liked what he had to play, then he must care about music. i do not understand.
you said in your last post
Sweetleaf wrote:
Oh and another reason I don't like him.......he thinks he's a musician, but the other day he said 'I just play the songs, they(the rest of the crappy band he's in) tell me to play its not a big deal to me.
i can understand the boredom in playing things that i am not interested in. for a number of years i was studio engineer (until my left ear problem happened) , and i also had to play piano backing tracks to advertisements that i thought were simple and banal. i disliked the melodies that i was told to play, but i improvised them to an extent where i actually had a mild amount of fun performing them.
Basically he does not usually nessisarly enjoy or appreciate any of the music he plays, its just a bit of money in his pocket I guess....it just irritates me. What really started the whole thing was him and his band did a cover of a song my mom really liked and had an emotional connection to........and basically slaughtered it. Then he was getting all pissed at my mom because she did not like their version...and at one point he said he just plays the songs but does not really care about them and was criticizing my mom for having an issue with the fact the butchered a song she liked. He just does not put anything behind his music, and wont play anything unless its a song that already exists or is something his band tells him he should play. Sweetleaf wrote:
He also tries to push that attitude on my 10 year old brother but I don't think it will work.....but yeah him and my mom have him in piano lessons and the guy gets all anal about if he makes a single mistake and will hover over him when he's practicing to point out any mistake no matter how minor...instead of just letting him play and get a good feel for it and listen for the mistakes and correct them himself.
that sounds like a very imposing attitude. if i had a ten year old child who wanted to experiment, i would certainly encourage his experimentation whether or not it was in the flavor that his instructors expected. i think your little brother should be encouraged to fully inject energy into his improvisations whether or not they have been appraised or endorsed by people who think they are authorities of musical design.
have you spoken to your little brother about if he feels suffocated by the expectations from his pseudo father?
does he trust your mothers boyfriend to usher him through his life at his early stage of it?
i would think your mother's boyfriend should have a very limited authority over your little brother, and i think that your little brother should have a great degree of authority with respect to how he wishes to express himself musically
does the mothers boyfriend have a musical talent? does you mother have musical talent?
if not, they may do well to keep quiet and listen in a sterile way to what his improvisations contain.
the most important thing is to help your little brother express himself in the most relaxed way he can, and shield him from negative attitudes from non musical people who may insult his improvised musical exertions.
it is like protecting a delicate plant in your garden from slugs and other predators.
Yeah I agree, and my brother is pretty smart so he does not really see her boyfriend as someone he should take example from, and he is also well aware that our dad is going to try and get things back on track and get a house and has the intention of possibly moving in with him.......but thats a ways down the road. But yeah I feel my moms boyfriend oversteps his authority sometimes.......I realise he is helping with Ian because my mom works all day during the week but still. But yeah he certainly hears about it when I feel like he is overstepping things with my brother.Sweetleaf wrote:
To me its just not about playing what someone else wrote exactly how they wrote it, that is good for practice but once you start getting better its fun to innovate and come up with your own things and I think my brother probably feels the same about it.
to simply copy note by note a piece of music is not better than constructing a facsimile of the original piece.
you should show your little brother that you believe in him no matter what he plays (i think(i am autistic so my advice may be wrong)).
your love can help him believe in his righteousness to express what he wants to express because you can shield him from the world of idiot appraisals that may break his heart ( at his young age).
anyway goodnight and i hope i have not said anything that is stupid in this thread
Yeah for sure......and I do my best to try and let him know I think he's pretty good and its not a lie he actually is getting pretty good, but yeah I just hope he keeps in mind that its about music and that its ok to innovate regardless of if my moms boyfriend is trying to interfere. But yeah that is what I was getting at earlier, my moms boyfriend thinks just copying other music note for note with different instruments is more valid then actually innovating things yourself.
23 Dec 2011, 3:25 am
