Aspies:Is college a lot easier than high school?

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16 May 2012, 4:56 pm

That seems to be what I've read. Like the benefits of high school- adult maturity, tolerance of diversity, celebration of intense interest- are increased in university.

Like you could play Pokemon (lol I'm on the library computer doing this right now and I feel like such a d!ck doing it) and everyone would know about it, no one would care, and chances are if your friends are majoring with you, they're probably into it.

Am i right or am i right?


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16 May 2012, 4:58 pm

you are right. That is because you were either right or right, so I chose right

dick is not censored, and I do not understand why you feel like one for I don't know what reason.

College is much better. The school work is easier IF you keep up with it. If you do not keep up with the school work, or do not study it is a LOT harder.


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16 May 2012, 5:04 pm

Delphiki wrote:
you are right. That is because you were either right or right, so I chose right

dick is not censored, and I do not understand why you feel like one for I don't know what reason.

College is much better. The school work is easier IF you keep up with it. If you do not keep up with the school work, or do not study it is a LOT harder.



Aside from the jokes, you do agree, though?


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16 May 2012, 5:30 pm

muslimmetalhead wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
you are right. That is because you were either right or right, so I chose right

dick is not censored, and I do not understand why you feel like one for I don't know what reason.

College is much better. The school work is easier IF you keep up with it. If you do not keep up with the school work, or do not study it is a LOT harder.



Aside from the jokes, you do agree, though?


Yes, but you have to make an effort on it. Lets say you like insects. Join clubs about it. You like fitness- you could join some extra curricular classes in the gym and meet people there.


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16 May 2012, 5:35 pm

I've been thinking about teaching creative writing. I wouldn't do it in HS because teenagers already know everything and their constant challenging of what I've lerned over the years would just give me a stroke. I'd prefer to teach in college because the kids are more mature and there's less horse playing in class.



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16 May 2012, 6:33 pm

I totally fell apart in college. I had no idea how to function living on my own, and even though I had no friends in high school, I was at least familiar with who my classmates were, versus college, with 500 student lecture classes that overwhelmed me. No one ever talked to me, only to other people, and I didn't know what to say to a perfect stranger, myself. High school was the ideal environment for me, with it's combination of the structured home life, classes at the same time every day, etc, and extracurriculars I pursued according to interests. College was just overwhelming. I'm on academic suspension from my university because the stress of it all got to me and I stopped going. I'm doing slightly better at a community college, but still, nothing compares to high school. I have no study skills because I grew up getting straight A's without trying, but it's difficult to do that in college.


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16 May 2012, 6:35 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
I totally fell apart in college. I had no idea how to function living on my own, and even though I had no friends in high school, I was at least familiar with who my classmates were, versus college, with 500 student lecture classes that overwhelmed me. No one ever talked to me, only to other people, and I didn't know what to say to a perfect stranger, myself. High school was the ideal environment for me, with it's combination of the structured home life, classes at the same time every day, etc, and extracurriculars I pursued according to interests. College was just overwhelming. I'm on academic suspension from my university because the stress of it all got to me and I stopped going. I'm doing slightly better at a community college, but still, nothing compares to high school. I have no study skills because I grew up getting straight A's without trying.


Yeah... college is pretty overwhelming, I kinda had to drop out. But I will be going back a year from now or so.


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16 May 2012, 6:36 pm

high school for a high school student is about the same difficulty as college for a college student.

except the difficulty is in different areas.

with high school, it's more social difficulty (which in college gets better).

in college, it's moreso responsibility and organization that are the problem.



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16 May 2012, 6:40 pm

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with high school, it's more social difficulty (which in college gets better).



I don't see how, frankly. I know people say that's the case, but it's not my experience, at all. I'd been in the same classes/grade with the same group of people for years, in high school, and some of them even spoke to me offhand on occasion. In college, I didn't know anyone. I spent three years at my university, and no one spoke to me once.


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16 May 2012, 6:43 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
minervx wrote:

with high school, it's more social difficulty (which in college gets better).



I don't see how, frankly. I know people say that's the case, but it's not my experience, at all. I'd been in the same classes/grade with the same group of people for years, in high school, and some of them even spoke to me offhand on occasion. In college, I didn't know anyone. I spent three years at my university, and no one spoke to me once.


i guess there's different perspectives here, but in high school there are bullies and most of the kids are immature. you are on a fixed schedule, etc.

in college, there is usually a cafe of some sort where you can meet people. and clubs, which are more open beyond a fixed frame of time.

high school is more boxed in so you may be exposed to more people, but college has a lot more social opportunity overall if you go out and look for it.



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16 May 2012, 6:50 pm

minervx wrote:
i guess there's different perspectives here, but in high school there are bullies and most of the kids are immature. you are on a fixed schedule, etc.


There are still bullies in college, I would imagine (I've never been bullied), and everyone's STILL immature- all the more so, because those who are at college are by definition of a more affluent background, and so with their immaturity comes a sense of self-entitlement, usually. The "fixed schedule" is partly why high school was such a great thing for me- it was routine and predictable.
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in college, there is usually a cafe of some sort where you can meet people.


Not to be rude, but to casually talk about "meeting people" as if that's de facto natural or people know how to do that strikes me as characteristic of very high-functioning Aspies. And for THOSE aspies, wasn't the high school CAFEteria the exact same thing?

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and clubs, which are more open beyond a fixed frame of time.

So...more people you don't know, socializing in groups that you're somehow supposed to approach and break into?
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high school is more boxed in so you may be exposed to more people, but college has a lot more social opportunity overall if you go out and look for it.

Yeah, again, this strikes me as a capability of the more high-functioning. As you said, different perspectives.


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16 May 2012, 7:32 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
minervx wrote:
i guess there's different perspectives here, but in high school there are bullies and most of the kids are immature. you are on a fixed schedule, etc.


There are still bullies in college, I would imagine (I've never been bullied), and everyone's STILL immature- all the more so, because those who are at college are by definition of a more affluent background, and so with their immaturity comes a sense of self-entitlement, usually. The "fixed schedule" is partly why high school was such a great thing for me- it was routine and predictable.
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Yes, I was more bullied in college than in High School. Can be that many of them are outside their parents control for the first time so they can get away with bulling the "different" students with no repercussion.

Another tract for college is to try to stay at home if possible. I was not able to and found that you have ZERO space to decompress. They may require you to stay in a dorm early on, and that is disastrous, even if the roommate is away, there are always noisy neighbors talking or blasting their stereos, making any peace hard to find. My best bet was to find a little-used part of the library to study and to try to wind down.



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16 May 2012, 7:49 pm

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Another tract for college is to try to stay at home if possible.
I was not able to and found that you have ZERO space to decompress. They may require you to stay in a dorm early on, and that is disastrous, even if the roommate is away, there are always noisy neighbors talking or blasting their stereos, making any peace hard to find. My best bet was to find a little-used part of the library to study and to try to wind down.



Very true. I was wrongly equivocating.


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17 May 2012, 1:11 am

In my experience, college is harder because it's more abstract and the work is harder too. Also in art class, they don't tell you what work to make and I have a hard time figuring out what work to do and I need structure. In high school, the teacher would give the whole class an assignment about what to make and that helps me because I have structure. But college doesn't have that.



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17 May 2012, 10:40 am

It depends on the course, and the age group. If it's a sixth-form college (16-19) then the students will be more mature than high school, but there'll still be 4-5 "kids" in your class. If it's a 19+ age course, then the students are a lot more mature, and generally don't bother you.

As for the course itself, if it's a low level, then it may attract immature people too. If you're going to do A-levels or whatever is above GCSE level then you should be fine.

As for meeting people, I met one in the support section and he introduced me to his college friends. We're not in touch anymore.

I recommend against working at home - you need to build up your social skills. If you say you can't do that cos of AS - look up books on how to talk to people, body language etc. And question every social interaction objectively, or it'll make you paranoid. When you do that, you automatically start learning how to deal with people, slowly, but surely.



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18 May 2012, 12:54 am

Schoolwork in college was much easier for me, I'm not sure why.

Meeting people and making friends was still as hard as it was in high school. I never could find any clubs I was interested in, I just always hung out with the same couple of people in my dorm.