opinions on others trying to "mouth" something

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kittygirl0811
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21 Aug 2012, 10:02 pm

Not sure where to post this.

I've had experiences where other people have tried to "mouth" something to me without actually speaking. That is, they try to move their lips as if they are speaking but no sound is coming out. Except that I can never understand what they're saying. I'm guessing that they are trying to communicate something to me they don't want others to hear.

What i'm wondering is...is the fact that I can't understand them an autism trait? I've encountered people doing this to me so often that I assume that NT people can understand lip reading.

What do you think? Can you understand lip reading?



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21 Aug 2012, 10:08 pm

I don't know if it's an autism issue or not but I don't understand lip reading.

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22 Aug 2012, 12:19 am

Lip reading is very hard for me



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22 Aug 2012, 12:52 am

Yes this happens to me often. Yesterday, in fact, a person mouthed a sentence twice, but I had no idea what they were saying so they ended up saying it out loud anyway.



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22 Aug 2012, 12:38 pm

I can't lip-read. Drives me nuts when people try to mouth words to me.



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22 Aug 2012, 1:29 pm

It's tempting to mouth back in intentional gibberish so they know what it's like.



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22 Aug 2012, 8:22 pm

VIDEODROME wrote:
It's tempting to mouth back in intentional gibberish so they know what it's like.



I've totally thought about doing this too. Except I've had bad social experiences with not being good at lip reading. So I usually just nod and pretend like I understand.



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23 Aug 2012, 9:03 am

I understand what you guys are saying, but I don't completely agree it's an ASD thing. Given context, I can lip read: for example, watching the local news. I know the kinds of things they put on local news, their facial expressions are exaggerated and 'stock', and you can watch their co-host if they have one. Context could simply be obvious gestures as well. If someone mouthed something at you and jerked their thumb in the direction of the door, what do you think they might be saying?

In loud clubs, I find great amusement by shouting (inaudibly) things to my friends where they think I'm contributing to the conversation, but I'm actually just shouting similar sounding but very different meaning words. I'm not sure if they've caught on yet...



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23 Aug 2012, 5:57 pm

I can't read lips either.



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25 Aug 2012, 7:19 pm

VIDEODROME wrote:
It's tempting to mouth back in intentional gibberish so they know what it's like.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


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30 Aug 2012, 12:32 am

A and B are NTs who were chatting with each other. A brought out a topic that might offend B, so I mouthed to A to change the topic. A just ignored me. Afterwards, A told me, "Don't mouth anything to me! I don't know how to read lips!"



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03 Sep 2012, 11:20 am

Usually I can't read lips well and it is annoying when someone does this. If someone mouthed something simple and then used body language I could most likely understand it. In the past when someone has mouthed something to me I feel a slight sense of urgency since I wonder if I will be able to understand what the person is mouthing to me. Luckily someone mouthing something to me has not happened very often.


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03 Sep 2012, 3:59 pm

kittygirl0811 wrote:
What i'm wondering is...is the fact that I can't understand them an autism trait? I've encountered people doing this to me so often that I assume that NT people can understand lip reading.

What do you think? Can you understand lip reading?


I'm NT and don't understand lip reading.



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03 Sep 2012, 5:39 pm

I would definitely expect Autistics to have trouble reading lips, because our automatic processing of faces is impaired, and we have to rely more on our logical brain. I don't have any idea how good or bad I am at reading lips, personally.



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03 Sep 2012, 9:48 pm

I can ONLY understand one or two words at a time when people are "mouthing" information to me. Even if they repeat themselves over and over, I still won't get what they are trying to tell me until they actually speak it.