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Rishikesh
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14 Apr 2014, 12:28 pm

ajvizz wrote:
thanksforthefish wrote:
Have you tried to genuinely get to know people you talk to?
A key is often to show interest in their lives and what they're doing.
If someone tells you that they failed their test, ask how they felt about that, if it feels important to them, further on what their plans are etc.


It's one of my problems. When they talk, I pretty much unintentionally zone off.


That's just it. They seem so boring to me when they talk. They build the wall of noncence around them and keep it up, hiding behind it, taking bricks away one at a time always checking out for my reaction and when they find it wrong, they leave. Often they also leave before they start to take the wall apart. I kind of began to understand this game of self-protection, but personally prefer to deal with rare people who don't play at all.



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15 Apr 2014, 9:38 am

AmandaMarie wrote:
I feel the same way as many of you. I very much want to connect with people, but it feels like there is some invisible wall between me and them. I might have isolated incidents with a friend or two where I think "Hey, this is the beginning of a really great connection, right? We are connecting here, yes?" and then the incidents just don't keep repeating and we don't even hang out that much. Other times I make friends and then later down the road they take advantage of me in some way so I am forced to stop being friends with them or I find characteristics about them that cross the line for me and prevent us from connecting. I go through periods where I feel excited about possibilities of connection but they never seem to pan out. Then I feel very lonely, like I do now.

Sometimes I wonder if I would even be able to reciprocate and feel the connection if one existed. Maybe people have felt very connected to me and NTs would generally also feel that connection themselves if they were in my position, but I just... can't generally. And that really frightens me.

I feel like I have had only one true connection in my life, which gives me some hope. That ended with me being taken advantage of though and the friendship ended badly.

Now I am in a new school, working towards a graduate degree, and I have a group of "friends" who I hardly see and who sometimes have characteristics that really offend me. I wonder to myself if I should find other friends more suited to me. But I just don't know how I would even go about doing that. It seems like people just fall together. But I never fall together with them right. I am really afraid I never will.


I agree witheverything you said here. Saying it's like a wall is a good way to describe it. Maybe that feeling is knowing that you probably wouldn't get a long that well if you are too close. I've been taken advantage of too in close friendships before and it was not pretty. I like how you said "It seems like people just fall together." Sometimes the way NTs natrually make friends with people is something that is hard to put in words and that seems to be a good way to describe, it's like effortlessly. But for us, it seems to take LOTS of effort.


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