So sick of the ya-ya-ya and insincerity

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kraftiekortie
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12 Jan 2016, 10:25 pm

You shouldn't have to ask ANY questions.

If I met somebody, I wouldn't ask any pointed questions. All I'd do is start from "how are you doing, how was the train trip/plane ride?"



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12 Jan 2016, 10:33 pm

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I have a few examples that I will post

1. I had a childhood friend lose her interest in me by the time she turned 12 and things have never been the same. We often broke it off and re-connected a few times. The first time was after a 2 year hiatus when she said yes to sleeping over. Long story short she kept postponing and expecting me to do all the calling. By the third time she ghosted by having her mom tell me to call her back in the next 15 minutes because she was "Putting her make up on." I did what she said and she was supposedly not there.

2. I made friends with a girl through an autism center and things seemed to go well at first. Then she went down to a vocational program for 9 months and came back acting like she never had time for me. I often got excuses that we could not get together because she had to babysit her sisters. Yet, she bragged about having time for a sleep-over with another friend of hers. She got into the military not long after and she was too busy working out with her personal trainer for her boot camp routines to meet me for a send off.


I have had so many things like this happen to me, too.
The made-up stories like the make-up and "call back in 15 minutes" seemed to be more what I experienced when I was younger. Now, as an adult, it's more "yeah, that sounds like a good idea" with no follow-through.

I see it on Facebook when people I know who I've tried to make friends with are always posting or tagging their friends (also people I know) and talking about such-and-such a good time and I know that I don't see *any* of those people outside of some kind of obligatory large social event once a year that everyone makes a brief appearance at.

My family went on a camping trip one time, and we brought the son of one of these women (a different woman than the others I talked about above.) She barely talks to me anymore AT ALL, even when I see her briefly. I don't even get the 5-minute social conversation. I wonder what could possibly have changed her opinion about me, since we used to chat more and even hung out a couple of times. I don't teach her kids music anymore, either, and supposedly that decision was not "personal." Yeah, right...because her kids are now taking music elsewhere. I guess I didn't pass the test, whatever the test was!



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12 Jan 2016, 10:53 pm

Perhaps you are putting people off in a way that isn't obvious to you. That was the case with me. I was doing things I wasn't really aware of. I had to have things pointed out to me by NTs.

Maybe you know some NTs that would be honest and willing to point out any mistakes you are making. I basically had to continue asking and asking to get real answers. I know now many things that I do that others consider odd or off-putting. Some of these things I would like to work on, but others I don't care about.



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13 Jan 2016, 10:04 am

There is probably something about you that is putting the people you are trying to be friends with off. It doesn't mean you are doing anything "wrong" or that there is anything "wrong" with you. I'm sure you also encounter people you aren't terribly interested in increasing contact with as well, even though if you really got to know them, you might be surprised to discover they are not who you expected. Maybe that is how you are perceived by the people you are trying to befriend.

So one option is to try to befriend people outside of the zone you are currently targeting. For whatever reasons, you aren't succeeding with the people you feel drawn to, possibly because their lives are too "full" to give you a chance. You could join some clubs, try meetups, take a class, etc. You could even try to start a club if you have an interest and there is nothing in your area that addresses it. People with already-overpacked lives are less likely to show up for these types of things.

Another possible problem is that you are "too available." It's human nature to want things that are in short supply. If it seems like you have plenty of free time, people may subconsciously conclude that your time has low value. If it seems like no one else wants it, they may assume that even if they can't personally tell what's "wrong" with you, it's probably something and if they associate with you, other people might start thinking the mysterious thing is "wrong" with them too. It's best to avoid being sucked into this mentality, so don't try too hard to befriend anyone who seems reluctant. Move on to someone else so you can develop a mutually rewarding friendship with someone who isn't part of this competitive social scene.



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13 Jan 2016, 11:52 am

You are a nice person and deserve better friends.

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13 Jan 2016, 12:05 pm

One thing you could also try (and have probably already thought of) is to join a club that has regular meetings. If you like hiking, maybe there is a hiking or outing club in your area. (Although in the Land of Abstractions and Ideas they may be scarce.) That way, there is a scheduled event you can attend that won't be cancelled, and there will be other people who are guaranteed to share the same interest.


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13 Jan 2016, 12:09 pm

Darmok wrote:
One thing you could also try (and have probably already thought of) is to join a club that has regular meetings. If you like hiking, maybe there is a hiking or outing club in your area. (Although in the Land of Abstractions and Ideas they may be scarce.) That way, there is a scheduled event you can attend that won't be cancelled, and there will be other people who are guaranteed to share the same interest.


I did join a hiking group. I'm doing less now because the hikes don't fit my school-year schedule so well. It's interesting to watch the interactions there, too. At least I am getting to meet some more people and I have had some nice conversations. Some people are willing to interact with those who are a little "different" and one time the leader spoke to me like I was just dumb. Go figure.



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13 Jan 2016, 7:06 pm

nerdygirl wrote:
If you are asking if I want to be friends with YOU.



Sorry to hear. I would message you, but %98.7 of people don't get me. I doubt its due to being Autistic, because then it wouldn't be so difficult to maintain with other likemindedpeople, right?

I am "content" being alone, since its all I really know. Others who knew me irl would question that, but we're alike. Lacking in the irl friendship department, that is.

But like I said, I'm open. Just cautious.