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usagibryan
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21 Jul 2020, 7:33 am

I have friends now, which I'm grateful for, but not a friend group. I usually only hang out with people one on one. If I'm in a group outing, it's because a friend invited me, and they are my conduit to that group. When I have a falling out with a friend, I lose access to that friend group. It seems like they all have known each other for a long time. I've tried getting my friends to meet and hang out with each other, but it never works. How do friend groups form? Do you join them or form them?

I grew up watching TV shows like Friends, I wish I had something like that. Is it unrealistic?


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21 Jul 2020, 7:25 pm

usagibryan wrote:
I have friends now, which I'm grateful for, but not a friend group. I usually only hang out with people one on one. If I'm in a group outing, it's because a friend invited me, and they are my conduit to that group. When I have a falling out with a friend, I lose access to that friend group. It seems like they all have known each other for a long time. I've tried getting my friends to meet and hang out with each other, but it never works. How do friend groups form? Do you join them or form them?

I grew up watching TV shows like Friends, I wish I had something like that. Is it unrealistic?


Hey man, I understand where you're coming from, I can only have one on one outings most of the time unless I could find as I describe it "clones of myself" I am looking for friend groups and stuff too! Like I for example am on Facebook pages to try make friends even though the page is supposed to be sharing the exact same interests as that's why I assume people join them or be part of them. I am looking for other singers, rappers stuff like that and I have no one in a circle of friends who like me for just being me anyhow. Sucks but I'm just weird and seem uninterested in NT's but anyway. Have you tried finding others that would potentially want to do things with you? Movie nights or try planning ahead with the people who like you and that way you'll hopefully have time to be notified of changes in plans as I find change makes me feel depressed anxiety and stress, Facebook could be a starting point for others in your area. Best of luck. Do the people in your group all like you? Or you just kinda feel like you tag along with the one friend? I had a falling out recently with a friend "only" friend really apart from another for over 20+ years and he has no time for me so I know what it's like now to have nobody. My own family don't want me around and I thinks it's cause they are embarrassed about my autism and weirdness. Just to give you an idea of what my situation is for comparison perspective. Hope it's useful. Sorry, I suck at explaining things.



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21 Jul 2020, 9:42 pm

Interacting with someone one on one is doable for me, to an extent, because I can talk about real things or discuss ideas or whatever, and also I'm not expected to be entertaining. Not that I have a lot of that. But being part of a group of friends is a very different skill set. Friendly banter among several people requires an understanding of social dynamics that I don't think I have. It usually involves joking around and making casual talk in a superficial, casual sort of way, that I don't really know how to do. So I would say having a group of friends like the show Friends is not something that would work for me. And I also don't really understand, for me, wanting that kind of relationship that is so light and impersonal rather than having a real connection.



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22 Jul 2020, 12:12 am

bee33 wrote:
Interacting with someone one on one is doable for me, to an extent, because I can talk about real things or discuss ideas or whatever, and also I'm not expected to be entertaining. Not that I have a lot of that. But being part of a group of friends is a very different skill set. Friendly banter among several people requires an understanding of social dynamics that I don't think I have. It usually involves joking around and making casual talk in a superficial, casual sort of way, that I don't really know how to do. So I would say having a group of friends like the show Friends is not something that would work for me. And I also don't really understand, for me, wanting that kind of relationship that is so light and impersonal rather than having a real connection.


You're so intuitive with knowing how you seem to understand, feel about yourself and understanding the way you relate to others. I couldn't have explained that exact context any better than the way that you have just described it. I'm 35 and barely understand what I'm feeling about my own feelings let alone trying to get a interpretation of the way others feel about me or view me. I'm a little envious to Be honest. I just want to be liked for me without expectations of others. I miss my family, my children and most of all feeling loved. I miss being hugged and told I mean something. I destroy every friendship and relationship I have ever had. I never realised that I hurt others emotionally I guess looking back on things because I didn't even know what I felt about myself. I'm always getting into trouble since I trusted and tried making friends and ultimately I never meant anything to them. I often feel id rather take my life then live in a world of unpredictability. I've lost everything that matters to me all because I didn't know how to communicate my emotions and realise how much I hurt people like my ex wife and I have pretty much accepted I won't ever have anyone who loves and accepts me for me. I am so lonely.



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22 Jul 2020, 4:04 am

Me too. I can take part in some activities where I'm definitely in a group, but I rarely feel like a part of the group. And even if I feel like it one time, I might not feel like it the next time even if it's with the same people. It depends a lot on what we do or talk about.



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21 Jan 2021, 1:06 pm

I 21 M Autistic PC Gamer just moved to Michigan looking for long-term friendships gamers who like and have long hair. I need help explaining my love for petting hair thing so it doesnt come off as weird or uncomfortable so I can make friends who accept me and love me for it but idk how to explain it in detail to make them like me. I always feel on edge and insecure with people because of how hard it is for me to make friends and me to be comfortable about being myself.



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23 Jan 2021, 10:20 am

Before the Covid scamdemic [sic], I had great experiences with Meetup groups. I'd come to a specific group's events regularly, and somehow form connections. What really helped is that either multiple people were new like me, or people were coming specifically to make new friends. So I'd end up forming two or more connections at once, rather than one "gateway friend". A good number of people would get to know me and think highly of me, and I exchanged contacts with them. This way, we can still talk if the group goes under, or if Meetup ceases to exist. Granted, a few people rubbed me the wrong way, or the whole group was a dud---human factors will always be there, after all---but they're the exceptions, not the rules.

Perhaps you (OP and other group-seekers) might benefit from Meetup too. You search for groups of interest to you, join them, come to the events, and form connections. Some are interest-based, others are age-based, and a few are even politics-based. Unlike with you joining a pre-existing "natural" group of friends, Meetup groups are more socially egalitarian, with multiple people being new too. It's available only in the US and Canada, though.

That being said, I'm no longer the shy, socially awkward person I once was. So the great experiences I had are a product of decades of trial-and-error.