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18 Jan 2016, 1:35 am

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Any chance you live near Denver? It would be so amazing to talk to another female individual who enjoys intelligent conversation. I also have zero friends and honestly cannot stand 90% of the women I meet because of the same reasons you listed. I think other women must sense I'm different than they are despite the fact that I'm pretty high functioning and have my conversation and social interaction skills down pretty well. Or maybe it's just a turn off to them when I start spouting facts about everything like my brain is hooked up to Wikipedia. Hey, sometimes I slip, we all do.

I had a girl-friend of sorts for a while, but trying to keep up my "being social" act with her was exhausting...all she ever wanted to talk about was "hot guys" and TV shows. That sounds so stereotypical but it was true. I read scientific research papers as one of my hobbies, for eff's sake, I don't know what's happening with Real Housewives or whatever.

Anyway your interests match mine quite nicely. So if you ever want to have a conversation with another girl who's well read and intelligent like you, send me a message anytime.


No, I don't live near Denver, I'm east coast. But you can PM me if you want. Although sometimes I suck at conversation, especially online when I use my phone lol.

Other women don't like me either, except for nerdy or artistic types generally. I think I'm too direct perhaps.


I'm probably an artistic nerd then :)
I don't know you very well, but from what i do know, i think we might have some good conversations if we were near the same ocean.


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18 Jan 2016, 1:42 am

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Only if they are being observed. I worked in retail for a bit and had certain things I had to say. I said them. I sucked at selling things because I refused to try to talk people into buying things they didn't want or need. It's wrong.

Some people I worked with would talk old ladies into buying things they didn't need. It worked, so they were praised by the managers. I just refused to take advantage of people. How could I live with myself?

It's possible to be ethical and still do well in business. It just requires being smart and capable instead of evil and lazy.
Ahhh, I gotcha...I was thinking only telephone salespeople. They are always recorded and monitored.

Since the topic of 'no friends' is the thread, I remembered this:
Since I was old enough, only one person has ever called, written or bothered to stay in touch. If I don't call them, I don't hear from anybody.

I don't have any friends. And, I don't really care to cultivate any. I had to answer a questionnaire for my intake. One of the questions was about friends. I realized that I don't care to cultivate any friends is because I have been too disappointed in past relationships of any kind. Even the thought of something disastrous happening worries me less than the confusion and disappointment past relationships have given me.

I'm fortunate that I have one person I can count on right now.


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18 Jan 2016, 2:07 am

I don't have any but I really, really want friends. I am not the type to want to get together all the time, but I know that it's something I need.

Even being disappointed all the time doesn't keep me from wanting friends. I figure there are people out there that are good, that I will have something in common with and who will tolerate me.

I'm surprised that you have no friends. You seem likeable.



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18 Jan 2016, 9:08 am

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I don't have any but I really, really want friends. I am not the type to want to get together all the time, but I know that it's something I need.

Even being disappointed all the time doesn't keep me from wanting friends. I figure there are people out there that are good, that I will have something in common with and who will tolerate me.

I'm surprised that you have no friends. You seem likeable.
I too have that craving for human contact, but I get either nervous or just blow it. One of the things I do, and it bothers me that it's my basic response, is to do things to get people to want some sort of contact with me, then, I resent it because:
1) When I'm around people, I feel that every moment is an opportunity to mess up and I start to stress out
2) Get annoyed that being around NTs are confusing and I spend way too much time sorting the situation than just enjoying it.

As I've gotten older though, I actually just prefer to have someone I can communicate with. Not necessarily in my presence. But, I find the communication more important now, not the interpersonal/direct contact. Make sense?

There are few people now a days that I like their personal presence. And, for the most part, I can see it's me and not them. They are not abusing the situation or being out of sorts. I just have trouble being interested in things that are not my interests.

I dunno...I'm a mess...I want the contact and interaction, but really get bent out of shape when I do get it because I overload and/or can't feign interest or some other sort of thing that gets in the way of me being around people.


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18 Jan 2016, 10:58 am

If anyone wants to be friends with me, just send me a pm so we can chat! :D


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18 Jan 2016, 4:17 pm

I wonder what some of us would do, if we were contestants on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire?', and we needed to phone a friend?



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18 Jan 2016, 4:55 pm

can call family or some other authority figure lined up in advance.....


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18 Jan 2016, 5:19 pm

I think Yingerin has lots of talents, and would be quite a worthy friend.



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18 Jan 2016, 6:08 pm

Regarding the telesales topic; I'm in the 'hang up without saying anything' camp :)

@OP - You sound like my kind of people :)



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19 Jan 2016, 1:15 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think Yingerin has lots of talents, and would be quite a worthy friend.



Thank you :)



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19 Jan 2016, 1:19 am

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Regarding the telesales topic; I'm in the 'hang up without saying anything' camp :)

@OP - You sound like my kind of people :)


Thank you :) Hopefully I can improve myself and actually learn to make friends with good people. I have quite a lot to work on.



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19 Jan 2016, 1:20 am

Yigeren wrote:
soldersplash wrote:
Regarding the telesales topic; I'm in the 'hang up without saying anything' camp :)

@OP - You sound like my kind of people :)


Thank you :) Hopefully I can improve myself and actually learn to make friends with good people. I have quite a lot to work on.

Don't we all.....


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19 Jan 2016, 2:54 am

Yes, I can't wait to go to a therapist and try to fix all these problems. I want to be happy. Hopefully a therapist familiar with ASD will actually know how to help me.



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19 Jan 2016, 7:35 am

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Yes, I can't wait to go to a therapist and try to fix all these problems. I want to be happy. Hopefully a therapist familiar with ASD will actually know how to help me.
Happy is an over rated concept and mostly misunderstood.

I would rather find peace and contentment. to me, that would be happiness. What would be your definition?


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19 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

I don't see the problem here. From what Aristophanes said it sounds like the potential outcomes are clear:

1. You become overwhelmed with depression and die
2. You give up on friends entirely and make peace with yourself

Both of which have one thing in common - you still have no friends. So there's the solution, don't worry about friends and just wait things out until either one of the above pathways becomes reality.

I'm far too young to be jaded from experience, so I've been focusing my energy on forcing myself to go down pathway #2. My ultimate goal is to be completely emotionless one day. It's challenging to always maintain my composure, but it's far better than worrying about a social life that's just not possible.



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19 Jan 2016, 10:42 am

Instead of trying to be social and outgoing [two things that I am not], I focus on being friendly. I've managed to make it through four years of High School by doing that, but my mum thinks that I need to be more social. Although...she's been sick and in a great deal of pain for a long time, so I'm wondering if she suddenly thinks that way because she wants to get out and be social.


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