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02 Jul 2009, 9:01 am

Personaly, getting drunk's aftermath is 100x worse then going out sober.

I might have a much easyer time talking to people when drunk, and might have it much easyer making contact with people, but as with most things, limited vs unlimited is like going from 0 to 300000km/s in an instant.

Next day I start remembering what an ass I made of myself in my own eyes (even if afterwards I hear people didn't get offended and actually had a good time with me). And that feeling of shame and axiety will last for weeks to come.

I rather be akward and happy with myself then popular and hate myself.
(Maybe thats the real difference between an Aspie and 90% of the NT population. They have no problem loathing themselves as long as they are rich and famous.)



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03 Jul 2009, 9:10 pm

I love getting drunk. If I had it my way, I'd be drunk 24/7.



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03 Jul 2009, 9:42 pm

So.. has anybody had any success in completely faking being drunk? Is it the atmosphere or the alcohol? Well, I'm sure it's both, and autistics aren't exactly great at pretending.. But has anyone tried having something non-alcoholic or telling people that they were drinking, or even just hanging out at an alcohol-related place without drinking, just to find out how it'd work?



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05 Jul 2009, 10:19 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:
So.. has anybody had any success in completely faking being drunk? Is it the atmosphere or the alcohol? Well, I'm sure it's both, and autistics aren't exactly great at pretending.. But has anyone tried having something non-alcoholic or telling people that they were drinking, or even just hanging out at an alcohol-related place without drinking, just to find out how it'd work?


I've spent tons of time in bars while not drinking. I quit drinking for a while but I still went out with friends and stuff, probably close to once a week. It's fine, it's fun if I'm among friends. However I am totally useless in the "bar scene" if I'm not drinking. I'm too awkward and can't meet people, can't pull girls, etc. If I'm drunk I have limited success with these things, but that's better than nothing. That's pretty much why I started drinking again.

I'm a similar kind of drunk to acacia, except sometimes (maybe 50/50) I like to be social when I drink, and when my mind is in a good place (which currently it is) I have no impetus to drink every day. When I drink I'm always trying to get drunk, but I can live with that if I limit those times to ones where they don't get in the way of responsibilities.



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06 Jul 2009, 5:56 pm

I feel that I'm more outgoing after a few drinks: not awkwardly social, but more friendly/pleasantly social. Friends who have seen me in that state have agreed with this perception of me as well...I think it's because it really seems to take the anxiety off. I'm most definitely not a boozer though: I know my limits and stop when I think I've had enough.

Sometimes when I choose not to drink but everyone else at a party is drinking, I act completely Aspie and they don't even notice: everyone is too drunk to care, or they'll assume that I'm drunk!


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09 Jul 2009, 8:29 am

Autism and alcohol do not mix. I tried to use alcohol as a social lubricant and I got myself drunk more than I want.

Your ability to read verbal and nonverbal cues will significantly decrease. Your ability to use precise language and fit it to the crowd that you are dealing with goes down. For people with our disorder, social skills are intensively intellecual exercise.

I have the luxury of being social environment where people are typically nonjudgmental and accepting of people along the spectrum. In addition, I had recieved some social skills thearpy in 2007 and 2008. Talking to new people becomes very easy for me to do.

However, most people live in the world that does not know how to cope with people with autism. Most of society is judgemental because they have the character defect of intolerence. Therefore, you will have to conform to their level of social skills. By not drinking, you will be able to ability read and understand social cues and able to get along with people.

If a group requires you to drinks in order for you to hang out, do not join it. These people are potential addicts and alcoholics without realizing it. They do not want to see somebody who is sober because it threatens them. These people belong in the rooms of AA and NA and telling me their story. Their lives are unmanageable and they need a higher power to cope with life. You do not NEED to hangout with this crowd.



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09 Jul 2009, 9:53 am

Trystania wrote:
Does anyone else feel that alcohol gives them more freedom to be themselves? If I behave in a certain way in a coffee shop then it's not acceptable. If I were to behave the same way in a pub, not only is it acceptable but it's funny! In a pub people assume you are drunk or it's the alcohol talking so pay little attention to behaviour that goes against the norm. I find that people are much more forgiving and patient with me and actually listen to me more. Little do they actually know that I've had only one alcoholic drink and I'd have the same opinions stone cold sober.


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I think I was hinting more at the thaw in peoples attitude when they think you're drunk and how quirkiness suddenly becomes acceptable because of it.


I don't drink at all, can't stand the smell of alcohol, yet I go to bars and nightclubs all the time to see my favorite band play. Maybe that explains why I have so many friends there :lol:


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09 Jul 2009, 10:46 am

Maggiedoll wrote:
So.. has anybody had any success in completely faking being drunk? Is it the atmosphere or the alcohol? Well, I'm sure it's both, and autistics aren't exactly great at pretending.. But has anyone tried having something non-alcoholic or telling people that they were drinking, or even just hanging out at an alcohol-related place without drinking, just to find out how it'd work?

I don't actively pretend, but I've been mistaken for being drunk a few times when I was totally 100% sober (which I always am, since I don't drink). This has always happened after I've been in the company of people who were drunk - I find if I'm talking to them for a while, and getting along well, I may to some extent take on the same manner as theirs. I guess this is not done as often/well among those with AS but I suppose I still do it enough.

I would never actively pretend to be drunk or tell people that I was drinking when I really wasn't, though.



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18 Jul 2009, 1:11 am

I used to love drinking alcohol at parties coz it made me feel more relaxed and sociable. And if I said anything which appeared "stupid" or "weird", people will think it's more coz I'm drunk and not due to my way of thinking.

However due to political reasons (as I mentioned in another thread), I no longer buy alcohol. This means that I'll have to try hard to improve my small-talk skills with other people when I'm sober, which is quite challenging.