Misanthropy

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It depends on different factors, but it seems like most people would be willing to commit any immoral and/or criminal act if it helped them out one way or another and they wouldn't get caught..... whether it's stealing or rape and murder. This seems to be especially true for people of lower intelligence, as people of higher intelligence seem to have more rationalisations in place that prevent them from acting on whatever fantasies they may have (eg. religious or political views).

This is what makes eg. a show like NBC's "To Catch A Predator" a perversion by itself (it's been widely criticised for its methods). There are serious indications that many if not all of the supposed predators were entrapped by the person in question pretending to be a 13- or 14-year-old in the sense that these supposed 13- or 14-year-olds probably instigated sexual conversation and made a lot of efforts to actually meet the supposed predators, leaving these men to believe that some underage person desired to have sex with them. Now you can say what you want, but I doubt many single male adults would dismiss such an offer even if it had never entered their minds before, especially if they do not have the necessary intelligence to rationalise the offer and ignore it. Especially when a crime appears victimless, only few people will still see it as a crime and even fewer will see it as something immoral.



There's no reason to lower your standards because mainstream society no longer seems to have any. Can you honestly ignore what you believe to be true and still be true to yourself as an indivual? Can you sleep well at night with the idea that you're doing on immoral act after the other?

Certainly, some moral standards are subjective but some values like "you shall not steal" and "you shall not murder" seem universal in every culture and make perfect sense from any religion or ideology, so it's not because some people ignore them that you should as well. If you're intelligent enough to put yourself beyond an easily life of fulfilling your own desires at the expense of others, then please do so. You will do the world as well as yourself a favor because in the end a moral way at least makes you sleep better at night...

Ha! You're half the misanthrope that I am. I despise most humans so much that I am currently thinking about starting to plan how I can be a subtle virus to the ones I hate. Screw with their minds so conscientiously that they'll go one level above our deviance; they'll go schizophrenic.

Why not develop a virus that wipes out all of mankind, then? I mean... Our species is so damn close to destroying the planet all other species would be greatful if we snuffed ourselves. Do you really think your own life and that of the few friends you have is precious enough to let those live while killing off all the antisocials, idiots and criminals?

I doubt I'm less misanthropic than you are. I've just learnt to accept that postmodern society has bred a world filled with antisocials, idiots and criminals which is likely to become even worse up to the point "Idiocracy" becomes a reality unless we do something about it really soon!

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Saw a quote some where that said

"Only half of the population (USA) has an average or above average intelligence, which means the other half are idiots...and vote"

The problem is (as the film Idiocracy shows us in a hilarious way) that the more intelligent people are the less they tend to breed. On top of that, many immigrants tend to come from the lower social classes of their home country. The consequence of both trends is an even further increase of the level of idiocy and a further decrease of average intelligence. And of course, the dumbing down of the school system doesn't help either.

Our high-tech society has led to a full stop of natural selection among humans in the so-called civil world and unless we adopt a eugenic strategy very soon I fear the process of degeneration cannot be stopped and man will return back to an almost apelike existence.

Welcome to the club. I've been a misanthrope since childhood.

You said it brother/sister, you said it!

I try to stay on the sunny side of the street (within rational limits, of course!) whenever possible, but I have come to the conclusion after 44 years of life that the human race is indeed so stupid and delusional that we're a pretty goddamned hopeless bunch indeed. The list in "inspirations" for this conclusion is virtually endless, but war, religion, and general intrapersonal politics (eg workplace politics) figure very prominently in the Exhibit of Evidence gallery....

A lot of the time it feels like being stuck on an airplane where the pilot(s) are clearly unqualified. You know how it's all going to end and there's no escape even if you aren't among the blissfully ignorant!

Woo-hoo

That feeling sounds very familiar. It makes me want to get wasted or take a woman to the bathroom to join the mile high club just to forget I'm on the damn plane... but unfortunately that's not gonna stop it from crashing into a field in the end.

Don't you just love metaphores?!

First, I don't have the mad science level of expertise to pull that off. Second, it would be exceedingly difficult to specify such a virus such that it kills the type of people that are detrimental and doesn't effect the people that aren't.


Well... yes. Of course I think that non-idiots and non-criminals are more important than idiots and criminals. My response need not be more complicated than that.


Perhaps.

Same attitude and the same ole' misogynistic double standards you have toward women eh D1NK0....

Feel free to actually contribute anything rather than insult me. I'm not a misogynist because I'm more disgusted by the behavior of women than the behavior of men any more than a woman who's disgusted more by the behavior of men than the behavior of women is a manhater. It itself is incredibly prejudiced to call someone a misogynist just for expressing his observations.

Merely going by your post, it speaks for itself.

If that's what you think, again your prejudice speaks.

Why because I don't agree with the way you view women?

No. It's because you draw the wrong conclusions based on misinterpretations of what I say.

With regards to your post in the other thread, I'd like to point out that I'm quite nature-oriented as well, by the way. In fact, I've been raised since I was a little boy to respect all life (human, non-human as well as plant-life --- my father still has his own organic garden) and used to make long walks with my father in the forest. Though I don't feel the need to spend much time in nature, I an strongly influenced by various forms of pantheism (especially the teachings of Advaita Vedanta and the filosophical interpretation of Asatru) as well as shamanism (I do some shamanic sessions with a friend occasionally). But hey, you'll probably base your judgement of me entirely upon your misinterpretation of the views expressed in both threads and that's very prejudiced.

As in us people with AS? I don't think so. I don't think it's an AS feature as much as it is a symptom of high intelligence. Although people who are very smart and have AS are especially likely to feel like this.
Here's an excerpt from an article:

This is definitely where my misanthropy stems from, and I suspect, to some degree, yours too. AS just adds a few more logs to the already strongly burning fire.
Also, if you want to read that whole article, google 'prometheus society outsiders' (since I'm not allowed to post URLs).