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No, it's because I PLAY Civilization 2. I made no deliberate effort to memorize anything in that game. If I can remember that Battleships have 12 attack, 12 defense, 5 movement, 2 Firepower, 40 Hit Points, and a 120-production-unit price tag, it's because I see those numbers every single time I open a production queue.



Oh yeah. That sucks big-time. Unfortunately, in my case, it only applies to things that happen in the real world, and I remember lots of historical facts that I wish I didn't know.

FuzzyChickens, that is exactly what I meant(sorry if I wasn't clear). I don't intentionally memorise things about my interests either. I don't deliberately remember everything about Harry Potter, I only memorise everything because I read the books all the time and go to http://www.mugglenet.com at least twice a day.

I know what you guys mean...I memorize things well but only because I am so focused on them and expose myself to them a lot. I just though I'd add a little something to the idea of society here. This is just my opinion, but it seems to me that a lot of those meaningless little laws are ingrained in NT's. If you look at other primates and even other mammals, a lot of their behavior is similar to ours. For instance, a lot of mammals have social structures-wolves are a good example, with alpha males having the highest rank in the pack. If you look at any kind of animal behavior, you can probably find human behavior that resembles it, it's just more complex. For instance, animals have territories, we have countries. A lot of those meaningless things society does probably benefited us humans and our ancestor species when we were evolving-communication would have been really important. Someone once said that evolution has stopped with humans, and when you think about it, they could be right. Instead of relying on evolution, we all need to take a look at ourselves and make a conscious effort to change-especially all those behaviors we share with the animals. Maybe us aspies or others who didn't follow those meaningless laws could be accepted if we all made an effort. And excessive greed and nationalism and things like that could be stopped too if we all made an effort to do so. Well, those are just my thoughts

Fuzzy, I would necessarily say the majority are idiots, but I do notice patterns. I might say a great many seem to lack common sense or logic and this imbalance creates problems. I know aspies are said to lack common sense but I think it is in a narrow range of social skills and sense of self, not in general like in what I mentioned above. I also notice that humans tend to behave more animalistic or stupidly in large numbers, especially if urged on by one or two morons who have a great deal of charisma but little or no sense, intelligence, and/or logic or reasoning capabilities. Jealousy, mob mentality (this is like the salem witch trials, or lynchings slightly longer then the previous mob like behavior except it is based on an idea or event like witches or perceived guilty felon), sheep behavior (as if being lead to the slaughter, this happens in cases like David Koresh or Adolf Hitler and therefore is a more serious charisma influencing problem then one time incident based event mentioned in my morons sentence), greed, lack of adherence to rules (as in traffic some idiot runs a stop sign then wonders why they are in an accident), trying to do something they are incapable of (I have a few politicians here that qualify, they have no idea how to do the job for which they were elected, a councilmen and schoolboard members), and more could be named later. Suffice it to say, I think the stupidity factor is part circumstancial (stupid in one area, average in others, and genius in some, and this includes aspies), part in crowd/mob influence, part charisma of disruptive person influence, part ignorance (if you were never taught to look both ways before crossing the street and get hit, that is ignorance), part disinterest (talking on a cell phone while driving when you are unable to pay attention to both), part carelessness, part substance influence, and maybe a few other things.

Even smart people can get swept into a mob mentality of stupid behavior. The ignorance thing may also be a major factor, many people do not gather enough of or diverse enough information to make an informed decision. These two are probably still the two biggest problems thought the first one has many sub types. Sometimes I wonder if it is because they don't care, are not honest enough, more concerned with being in then being themselves, not rational, and are not concerned enough about making mistakes, especially serious ones (why else would jails be so full?).


I agree with Bec's resourceful insight. I do some things better and some things worse than most people and I remember things I care about much better than things I don't care about. Things that don't change or are boring, for instance, I see no need to remember them. Things I really like I tend to remember better if I get info from various sources and senses, like reading and playing a video game and/or watching a movie about a topic and/or internet.

Some of our behaviors, like territorialism, are genetically programmed. Social BS is not among them. Humans have to be taught to express gratitude and apology, because they're not things that we are naturally inclined to do. How many times is a normal person told to say "I'm sorry" or "thank you" before they start doing it on their own? Quite a lot.

That reminds me, I really need to get around to putting my papers about Phyresis up on the internet. In one of my post-Robotrip states, I wrote pages upon pages about how human culture is stifling our evolution, and how we should change our culture to evolve our technology in addition to, rather than instead of, our biology. I also go into fabricated emotions and absolute morality.

Aspies would make excellent Phyrexians... yes...

Humans are still evolving... People are being born without appendixes.

But it's the humans which stop it.. they try to keep everyone alive no matter what their genes are like.. It's not about survival of the fittest anymore.

People are also born with Down's Syndrome, that doesn't mean the human race is getting stupider. Well, it is, but not because of DS. It's because of freaks like YOU! *points the Big Finger of Political Incorrectness*

Okay, enough crap from me for the day.

Oh boy! I thought I was occasionally confrontational in my style......

Fuzzy, baby: why are you on these forums exactly? You're a stated NT with no apparent reason for being here than to seemingly offend and irritate as many non-NT people as possible, in as short a time as possible.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

"You're not the first person to take one of my jokes seriously, and you won't be the last."

Also, my mom is absolutely convinced that I have AS.

OK, fine - I get misinterpreted all the time too, so can sympathise to an extent. I don't, however, go around calling people on these forums "freaks"..... That is so far off the scale of anything that could even be loosely classed as "humour" as to be ridiculous......

I think you'd do better to concentrate a little less on trying to be witty and clever all the time - it will get you into trouble 'round here matey I'm afraid...... (/me takes off amateur moderator's hat)

My friends and I call each other things like "as*hole" and "fatass" all the time in jest. I didn't think that anyone would mind an obviously sarcastic "freak," especially coming from a guy who considers himself to be such a freak.

As has been said already, more than once. Both myself and Alex have warned you FuzzyChickens - the trolling tactics stop now. You have got a reaction - keep pushing buttons and you're out of here.

Incidentally, a lot of people here dislike sarcasm intensely.

Dunc

I wish some of the NTs would learn their manners better, myself. I have heard supposedly grown men throw the most childish of insults at me as though they were still insolent children! I feel sorry for them, in a way. It would seem their parents had neglected to teach them the most basic of manners, or perhaps they have forgotten that everyone deserves to be treated with basic human dignity. I have decided to take a less passive approach, however, since I am a generous man. For those who insult me, I will not come down in fury upon them; instead, I will teach them the basics of social interaction that even an aspie knows at that age. I will ask an apology for their slip of social conscience. If they refuse, I will take appropriate corrective measures.

what exactly is trolling again?

Primarily, posting to a list/forum/etc with the intention of getting a rise out of people. A description of trolling can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Dunc

In that case, it's hard to truthfully say that the "trolling tactics stop now" since said tactics never started in the first place.

Now THAT is information that I can actually use.