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17 Oct 2006, 11:23 pm

No, I don't consider myself emo. Plus, anyone at my HS would have gotten their a** kicked if they acted like emos act like.



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17 Oct 2006, 11:35 pm

Haha same at my HS!



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17 Oct 2006, 11:40 pm

Starbuline wrote:
Haha same at my HS!


Oh...isn't that sweet....aspies have found someone lower on the totem pole to make fun of and enjoy their bullying...Are you sure you two are not NT?I just lost a ton of "illusion" about the supposed superiority of aspies.


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17 Oct 2006, 11:53 pm

krex wrote:
I just lost a ton of "illusion" about the supposed superiority of aspies.


Good.



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18 Oct 2006, 12:00 am

No, I am not a NT. But I know what it feels like to be depressed because I have been for the past 3 years. I contemplate suicide every day. I get angry when people want to be like this because it's horrible. So Nyahh!! !



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18 Oct 2006, 2:13 am

I don't think I'm an NT, either. The thing about being an emo, at my highschool, is that people got made fun of who drew attention to themselves due to some unique feature and emos would be no exception with all that emotional expression they have going on. (This really that goes for the region I live in, not just my school.)



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18 Oct 2006, 3:31 am

Starbuline wrote:
No, I am not a NT. But I know what it feels like to be depressed because I have been for the past 3 years. I contemplate suicide every day. I get angry when people want to be like this because it's horrible. So Nyahh!! !


I dont know the people at your school whom you identify as EMO,but I know that I have been in psyc wards and attempted suicide several times in my life.I use to cut and I had some people who where also depressed who where the only people to except me.I dont think I or they thought it was "cool" to be depressed but we did wear black(this was mostly in the 80's)I just get sick of anyone making fun of some people because they think "depression" is pathetic and weak...and most of the "bullies" who made fun of us and our depression didnt "sound" any different then you and others mocking emo's.

I heard the same kind of crap about the punks who were my friends....I just wish people could give other people the benifit of the doubt when they say their life is sh***y....they may not be trying to be cool....they may have actual feelings.


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18 Oct 2006, 3:53 am

I'm not emo

I don't especially like them, but if they were to talk to me I'd be talking to them as if I were talking to anyone else. I don't especially like how some kind of glorify (or rather butcher) depression



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18 Oct 2006, 11:25 am

Is emo short for emotional? I don't know.

I don't usually pay heed to this sort of thing, but this topic irked me. There are surely nice and good people who identify with being emo. How are you any better than a bigot when you lump all emos into a negative catagory, close your mind to them, and ridicule. Please explain. Not talking to anyone in particular here, this is a general response to the topic.
How would it feel to you to be (pre)judged because you happen to identify with a particular social group? For all intents and purposes, consider "aspie" as a group of persons one could identify with.



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18 Oct 2006, 12:07 pm

I'm not emo, I just have poor random dress sense. :D



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18 Oct 2006, 2:37 pm

Krex, I'm sorry if I offended you. I was trying to say that I don't like people who pretend to be depressed to just get attention. :)



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18 Oct 2006, 3:53 pm

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Krex, I'm sorry if I offended you. I was trying to say that I don't like people who pretend to be depressed to just get attention. :)


Thanks for the apology....I really just wanted to make two points.

Until you can crawl into someones Else's skin,you cant really know if their depression is real or not.Havent you had people act like your depression was "attention seeking",been told to "stop feeling sorry for yourself".I hated having my feeling discounted by others just because "they" have never felt them.I feel genuinely shocked when I meet people who say they have never considered suicide.WTF?
I dont know how the idea of cutting even occurred to me.(1980)I knew no one who did it,was very ashamed and always hid it.I had no idea that any one else in the world did it....but when I ended up in the psycward(for overdose)they saw them and declared it a "cry for help"...I didnt believe there was any help or I would have just asked for it.(duh)

Why do these "emo's" want attention....so they can be beat-up and made fun of?I never saw my depression as exactly "glamorous".....maybe it is now?I remember people doing that with the "heroin sheek"....(anorexic look,pale skin,puking and sh*****g yourself,stealing to get a fix....how romantic...)
Perhaps that is what the Emos at your school are like(or some off them)but I have a feeling that most people who are part of this group are actually hurting inside and lonely "outcasts" who have made easy targets for society....I knew a lot of Punks and deathrockers who were "nerds" in school and were either attracted to the "rage or humor" of punk or the "depression" of deathrock...they were the outcasts who just wanted to feel a part of some "group"...sounds a lot like apies to me.

Just food for thought(and I am not mad at you,just playing devils advocate on this issue)

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18 Oct 2006, 4:11 pm

No.


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18 Oct 2006, 4:13 pm

No.


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18 Oct 2006, 4:30 pm

I am "emo" in that I like a lot of the music (from the more meaningful end of the spectrum, though - songs which are aimless musically and lyrically get on my nerves). There are some brilliant emo songs around, though there are plenty of rubbish ones, too, just like any other genre.

Emo songs aren't necessarily about depression. Open your ears. I thought stereotyping and making sweeping statements were NT traits?

I've always been attracted to music which features loud guitars and intelligent words. I like some grunge, indie, punk and "alternative rock" bands (these terms seem to be used interchangeably now anyway) for the same reason. "American Idiot" is a good, non-emo, example. A lot of emo bands want the world to be a better place, and get disappointed by its problems, just like many Aspies do.

Like any other fashion the whole "emo" thing has been created by the media, who love pinning labels on bands, building them up and then knocking them down. There have always been bands playing this sort of music, it's just that they've never been in the media spotlight before. There have always been folky singer/songwriters, too, so why are they suddenly a "new" thing? And what about all of the superb grunge, shoegazer and stoner rock bands currently playing down the Dog & Duck for ten B&H and a packet of peanuts, just because the attention has shifted elsewhere?

I like certain songs by certain bands, because they mean something to me. Emo songs are often much closer to my feelings than other sorts of music e.g. pop, country, hip hop. I really don't give a f**k whether anyone else likes them or not, and quite frankly I don't think it's anyone else's business what I choose to listen to. I am also bemused by the assumption that music maketh the man - i.e. just because I listen to heartfelt songs written by people with feelings, I am automatically a pathetic, depressed loser and also some sort of fake. Does this mean that all rap fans are urban gang members, or all death metal fans are killers? I think not.

I do get depressed sometimes, and in times of severe stress I sometimes cut my arms. I cut my arms because it's a way of releasing stress that hurts only me, rather than my friends, family or girlfriend. In that sense it's a sign of thoughtfulness and strength. I certainly don't do it because I think it's fashionable to be miserable, or because "the music made me do it". That's ridiculous. I'm certainly not a loser - my life is pretty good, generally - and I'll happily lay out anyone who thinks I might be pathetic :twisted:


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18 Oct 2006, 6:59 pm

Hehe...I like Werbert's signature...