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13 Apr 2015, 8:09 am

I'm somewhat of a "winner"--but I'm online pretty often.

I also work two jobs.



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13 Apr 2015, 12:47 pm

Someone will be there to call you a loser no matter what you do. You could literally become God in the flesh, and there'd be someone waiting for the chance to call you a loser for it.



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13 Apr 2015, 1:41 pm

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Would you think about rejecting someone for a friend, date, or romantic relationship because the person regularly spent a lot of time on the Internet for non-employment-related reasons?


No, unless that gets in the way of the friendship/relationship...like if they always turn down opportunities to spend time together so they can browse the internet or look at facebook 24/7. But if that's just what they do with their spare time I really would not give a damn...I can spend a lot of time on the internet at times too.


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13 Apr 2015, 1:44 pm

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Someone will be there to call you a loser no matter what you do. You could literally become God in the flesh, and there'd be someone waiting for the chance to call you a loser for it.


That is so very true.


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13 Apr 2015, 3:01 pm

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I hate to break it to you OP but you are indeed a LOSER. You are absolutely going nowhere with your life...

Learn to read, genius.



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13 Apr 2015, 11:09 pm

Read the post peeps-- it's a hypothetical, not the OP's personal issue. He's had to restate that several times.

My opinion on the matter is that it's not really an issue, the majority of western society spends a boatload of time doing useless crap online and off. Look at people that work out like three hours a day, it's only useful until you hit a healthy composition, after that it's all useless vanity. Same with people that read a lot of dense material (me), after a certain point it's useless mental vanity. The guy that works 70 hours a week and always looking at "getting ahead", what purpose does it serve except his own social vanity? Point is, what people do in their extra time is generally useless for the good of themselves and humanity as a whole-- so who gives a s**t whether it's online or off? It's pretty much everyone too, both genders, every race, and religion. If someone would reject someone else for spending too much time "online" I'm sure they haven't looked too hard into their own time management or are in denial.



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14 Apr 2015, 1:44 am

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Although most people probably have no idea how much time they actually spend online (especially if they're using phones and other portable devices rather than a computer), and most people would probably severely underestimate the amount of time they spent online in the past week.

Somehow checking a 'phone' every 15-20 minutes does not appear to have the same social stigma attached to it. Compared with using a desktop machine at home. Even if the desktop user carries no portable devices when they are not at home.



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14 Apr 2015, 1:54 am

Aristophanes wrote:
Point is, what people do in their extra time is generally useless for the good of themselves and humanity as a whole-- so who gives a s**t whether it's online or off? It's pretty much everyone too, both genders, every race, and religion. If someone would reject someone else for spending too much time "online" I'm sure they haven't looked too hard into their own time management or are in denial.

Most people thoughtlessly adopt the arbitrary value systems that culture feeds them, so they'd never even consider whether or not the way in which they value different activities makes sense. Being a workaholic would likely be seen as a neutral or even positive use of time relative to relaxing with some youtube videos and computer games, even though the workaholism might be adversely affecting one's health.



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14 Apr 2015, 3:05 am

Any non-productive addiction would make you a loser.

Yes, including working out 3-4 hours a day, I don't get this.



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14 Apr 2015, 2:26 pm

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t was a hypothetical example. I wasn't describing myself.


Well it's my opinion thenfor anyone.

If you spend all your time sitting around at home, on the computer or just playing video games or watching tv or anything else unproductive with your life, I think you need to try and get out and live life.

If you HAVE already tried/been trying, if you've faced so many job rejections over the years, if you had trouble getting back into education, whatever, then it's fine.

Trying and failing is better than failing to try.


Yes, and what about those of us who have a job we are quite comfortable in and simultaneously prefer time spent on the internet along with a few other things to most forms of social interaction?



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14 Apr 2015, 11:20 pm

DailyPoutine1 wrote:
You're not a loser, OP.


^This.



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14 Apr 2015, 11:42 pm

starkid wrote:
Would you think about rejecting someone for a friend, date, or romantic relationship because the person regularly spent a lot of time on the Internet for non-employment-related reasons?


Friend? No, I wouldn't. A significant other? Yes, yes I would.

I used to spend all of my waking hours on the internet and it without a doubt does not lead to having a balanced life. Actually, I only started to make an effort towards doing something with my life five to six months ago. I'm only on about 2-4 hours a day now even when you factor in schoolwork, which I think is reasonable. I want somebody that spends their days doing something that adds value to their life in the long run (yes, go ahead and argue how playing that one video game incessantly contributes to a fulfilling life). My SO doesn't spend a lot of time online and we are both very active in our mutual hobby, so I don't see how I could be like that with somebody who regularly spends loads of time online.

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Wouldn't this be as shallow as it gets? The epitome of shallow to the core, actually.


How would this be the slightest bit shallow?? I think of shallow as applying to physical attributes and other things the person cannot fix. Not as agreeing/disagreeing with behaviors.



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15 Apr 2015, 2:28 am

DarkObserver wrote:
Outrider wrote:
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t was a hypothetical example. I wasn't describing myself.


Well it's my opinion thenfor anyone.

If you spend all your time sitting around at home, on the computer or just playing video games or watching tv or anything else unproductive with your life, I think you need to try and get out and live life.

If you HAVE already tried/been trying, if you've faced so many job rejections over the years, if you had trouble getting back into education, whatever, then it's fine.

Trying and failing is better than failing to try.


Yes, and what about those of us who have a job we are quite comfortable in and simultaneously prefer time spent on the internet along with a few other things to most forms of social interaction?


I agree it's okay.

I'm a student in school and do my homework and all that and I still spend a very large amount of time online.

I'm just saying that, if you just sit around at home on the internet instead of job-hunting, you need to be doing something with your life.

If you have a job and spend your free time playing video games, on the internet, whatever. It's your FREE TIME.

Whether you spend it socializing or not doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't impede on your ability to work, to be independent, etc.



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15 Apr 2015, 2:31 am

Logston wrote:
starkid wrote:
Would you think about rejecting someone for a friend, date, or romantic relationship because the person regularly spent a lot of time on the Internet for non-employment-related reasons?


Friend? No, I wouldn't. A significant other? Yes, yes I would.

I used to spend all of my waking hours on the internet and it without a doubt does not lead to having a balanced life. Actually, I only started to make an effort towards doing something with my life five to six months ago. I'm only on about 2-4 hours a day now even when you factor in schoolwork, which I think is reasonable. I want somebody that spends their days doing something that adds value to their life in the long run (yes, go ahead and argue how playing that one video game incessantly contributes to a fulfilling life). My SO doesn't spend a lot of time online and we are both very active in our mutual hobby, so I don't see how I could be like that with somebody who regularly spends loads of time online.

DarkObserver wrote:
Wouldn't this be as shallow as it gets? The epitome of shallow to the core, actually.


How would this be the slightest bit shallow?? I think of shallow as applying to physical attributes and other things the person cannot fix. Not as agreeing/disagreeing with behaviors.


What do you think about internet based hobbies e.g writing with a computer? Programming? Whatever?

If you also like to have a little fun and surf the net at the same time, is this bad?



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29 Apr 2015, 7:01 pm

the internet these days makes everyone have a addiction to online entertainment. otherwise it would be the olden days where outside and meeting people make progress on life.


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