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MsTriste
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01 Apr 2007, 3:16 pm

Sigh. Add me to the list. Too depressed to go into detail at the moment as it would take hours to chronicle all the times this has happened. Days, even...



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02 Apr 2007, 5:42 am

It partly goes back, for me, to being bullied at school and left out of kids games because I was hopeless at sports and athletics and very bookish; also, my father was a teacher at the same school. Eventually I had to be taken away from that school and put in another, where things were not so bad - at least I didn't often get bullied - but I still mostly got left out of gruops of friends, ended up sitting or playing by myself, waiting for the bell to end lunchtimes and recess times so that the shame of being by myself while all the other kids were playing, would come to an end. This sort of thing has set the stage, as it were, for me for the rest of my life.



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05 Apr 2007, 5:04 pm

All the time.....sick/hurt lab pet.

I am physically pretty, which perhaps makes it worse, I do not know. I have never done anything wrong, but I am painfully shy. I have one male friend; I love him. He has a family, home, etc. and said he "likes me." He's the only person who likes me. Often, at the lab, for ex., I'll say (or write, I'm nearly mute): I'll go away now.

This just means I sense no one wants me.


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05 Apr 2007, 5:50 pm

I want me so it works out.



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05 Apr 2007, 6:13 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:
I want me so it works out.


Santa, you're OK, everyone wants you, especially at Christmas :D

Seriously though, it raises the issue of just how often people "want" you just for something they can get out of you. It might be money or sex or some kind of assistance or support, or approval. In that sense, I suppose, I'm wanted quite a lot, since I work in a job where I provide help to people who need and want it. But that isn't what I meant, of course. Sometimes I wonder if I ask too much. Is it realistic to expect someone to want you or like you even if they don't get anything out of you? I dunno.



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09 Apr 2007, 7:37 am

I had several highly embarrasing incidents that were caused by my inability to assess unspoken codes of behaviour or growing annoyance from other people.

Typically, I would be annoying in some way, and unable to notice hints that I should stop. Eventually, someone would lose their patience and spell out exactly what I was doing wrong. Discovering I was annoying and unwelcome with (from my point of view) no warning was shocking and dispiriting. Especially since to me, there was nothing I could learn from the failure, and no obvious way to repair relations. I think that in the end, the fear of further rejections ended up doing more damage than the actual incidents themselves.

The core of the problem seems to be that I can't accurately guess how other people percieve me. Even when I talk to someone and it seems to be going well, I'll be secretly worried they're being polite and thinking "God, just stop talking already!". Watching out for signs of annoyance distracts me from the actual conversation, and is stressful, making the activity less fun.

Even when a conversation seems to have gone well, I may decide to "quit while I'm ahead" and cut off the conversation before I blow it. And as well as that, I tend to worry feel responsible for harsh reactions that have nothing to do with me, and are simply the other person being a jerk.



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09 Apr 2007, 12:08 pm

Feeling unwanted has pretty much been a constant in my life. Not just feeling unwanted but being unwanted. I've had plenty of confirmations from people of all ages and walks of life. As a younger person it made me have some self-doubts but as I age I know what they are missing out on. Plus, as I age I find that my own hobbies and interestests are more fulfilling than most people.

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Does anyone else have this issue of always, or at least nearly always, feeling unwanted? I do. Nearly all the time I feel that people don't want my company, if they do tolerate my company it is only out of feeling that they ought to be nice to me rather than because they really want me around.

A few times in my life, people have come out honestly and told me they don't want me around. There hasn't even been any obvious reason, at least not one that has been obvious to me. For example, once I was travellng on my own in Germany, and I met 2 girls at a youth hostel who were also cycling, so I asked if I could join them as we were going the same way. They said OK, but without much enthusiasm. So the 3 of us cycled together for a way. I tried to make a bit of conversation. I didn't do or say anything offensive. But suddenly one of them turned and said, "Could you leave us alone?". The other one was a bit shocked at her friend's rudeness and told her she shouldn't speak like that. But obviously the only difference was that she was more polite about it. So I left them to go off by themselves. There have been a few other similar incidents when people have been blunt about it. It makes me think that when people don't say it, nevertheless it's what they are thinking, they are just too polite to say so expressly. Generally people just don't seem to want me around. Even my wife does not seem to want to spend much time with me. She goes out and does her own thing at weekends and makes excuses if I ask her to go somewhere with me. Well, occasionally she agrees, but it usually seems like she is reluctant. Maybe it's a false impression I have, I don't know. But the feeling is something that is always with me.



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09 Apr 2007, 12:24 pm

I am unwanted.



09 Apr 2007, 1:01 pm

I got that all the time when I was in school. Now I haven't been told to "go away" except for the internet and I only been told once from someone at work to leave her alone because she thought I was ridiculing her English because I had misunderstood what she told me.

Now I feel my boyfriend doesn't want me because he never calls me so I decided why should I call him. I will call him sometimes but not all the time. He may have told me he gave up calling me because I kept asking him about the LNB but hello, I didn't start doing that until I realized Dish netowrk wanted it NOW so what choice did I have, it had to be done now or I get the big fee I have to pay and it can effect my credit report if I didn't pay it. No way I was going to have my Dad pay for it. We have talked on the phone about other things like what we did today and all and then he tells me he gave up calling me because it was about the piece. But he never called me since the day we split up literaly. He only called me to tell me bad news about my car needing a new part and asking me if I want the LNB still.



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09 Apr 2007, 2:16 pm

Rory wrote:
Does anyone else have this issue of always, or at least nearly always, feeling unwanted? I do. Nearly all the time I feel that people don't want my company, if they do tolerate my company it is only out of feeling that they ought to be nice to me rather than because they really want me around.

A few times in my life, people have come out honestly and told me they don't want me around. There hasn't even been any obvious reason, at least not one that has been obvious to me. For example, once I was travellng on my own in Germany, and I met 2 girls at a youth hostel who were also cycling, so I asked if I could join them as we were going the same way. They said OK, but without much enthusiasm. So the 3 of us cycled together for a way. I tried to make a bit of conversation. I didn't do or say anything offensive. But suddenly one of them turned and said, "Could you leave us alone?". The other one was a bit shocked at her friend's rudeness and told her she shouldn't speak like that. But obviously the only difference was that she was more polite about it. So I left them to go off by themselves. There have been a few other similar incidents when people have been blunt about it. It makes me think that when people don't say it, nevertheless it's what they are thinking, they are just too polite to say so expressly. Generally people just don't seem to want me around. Even my wife does not seem to want to spend much time with me. She goes out and does her own thing at weekends and makes excuses if I ask her to go somewhere with me. Well, occasionally she agrees, but it usually seems like she is reluctant. Maybe it's a false impression I have, I don't know. But the feeling is something that is always with me.


It may be due to whats called the "confirmation bias". We tend to only look for and more importantly remember things that confirm our suspicions, and disregard the rest. I used to think like this too, but after paying attention to every time someone has happened to want me around, I don´t think like this anymore as much (although its still in the back of mind all the time). Perhaps you should actually try to keep a count.


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16 Apr 2007, 10:35 pm

I wonder what its like to feel "wanted". Must be nice.



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17 Apr 2007, 11:52 am

alexbeetle wrote:
Aspie_for_the_Lord wrote:
i get this all the time.... i understand what you are going through...

i used to think it was because i was hidiously ugly... but people on here have told me otherwise

im just as stumped as you as to why people dont want my company, im accepting of everyone else and would spend time with anyone... but the sentiment isnt often two-way...

maybe its THEM that are anti-social.. :lol:


I think too that the anti-social label is unfair as I think that we become that way only after countless rejections by the so called sociable people.

I think you are interesting AFTL and was wondering what you were doing in WP as you seem so very much okay.



:lol: i seem very much okay? :lol:

thanks i guess, but im anything but normal.... people rarely get what i mean or my humour...

and most people offline seem to take an instant dislike to me, except other oddballs or people who love Wierdness.

but if you think im normal than thats a good thing, it means your on my wavelength... and thats pretty amazing, as very few people are... :P


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17 Apr 2007, 11:54 am

I feel unwanted all the time :(



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17 Apr 2007, 7:02 pm

Most people don't care if I live or die. This applies online as well as off.



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17 Apr 2007, 10:15 pm

Fatallyflawed wrote:
Most people don't care if I live or die. This applies online as well as off.


I think not since I read and understand your posts. But, I know what you mean about elsewhere. For me, the harder I try, the more I am shunned even though I follow the rules. I do feel.


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17 Apr 2007, 11:50 pm

Very few honest people in my life. The kid is one. She once asked if I had any emotions. I said I did, same as anyone, and some wear them on the outside, some keep them within.

It seems there had been other conversations, she wanted my story. It seems some people are frightened of me. I asked what she thought of me. I am her prize posession. She said I was like the dog, a Pit Bull. Some people will not come in the yard, others she will not let in the yard, but most she lets in and wants to play nice with.

The dog knows who is up to no good at a distance. She is always right. She mentioned me looking at people, seems that had come up. I asked, and she said some of her friends were better behaved when I was around, sensing something, but others open up and come talk to me, which was out of charecter for them. Now I see their aspie traits. Ten years later they are still drawn to me, come sit in the yard and talk.
They are 18, I am sixty, but there is a close trust.

The Pit Bull loves me, and I her.

I asked how she felt about me looking at her. She said it was like I looked right through her, saw everything inside, knew everything she thought, and she felt me within. We go way back, as a baby she slept in my arms. I tell her she likes me because I smell right, of her pack. We have always been close, she started the staring contest, and we are tuned.

It seems I am a walking lie detector, some will not get near, others change their behavior, and others are strongly attracted. The kid is pure of heart, the same for her girlfriends that go out of their way to really talk to me, and the Pit Bull rests her head on my knee. When we are together the power is magnified, we all become energized.

The kid got a new Pit Bull, a girl, and the first time she saw me I was her long lost friend. She had been ignoring humans. The kid's mother smiled and nodded her head, another one. Before they had Great Danes, the Alpha female was agressive, it was love at first sight.

Within my pack life is great. It just feels so good to be together.

The rest of the world treats me like I know where they buried the body. It seems my presence brings up hidden thoughts, some run, others get defensive. I did not understand for a long time. Now I have a working theory.

Horses, dogs, little children, like me, liers, the corrupt, flee. I would have it no other way.

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