NTs and their façade of tolerance.
D0gbert wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
...ever thought that the people you can carry a conversation with might be Aspies?
In some cases, it's because I am talking to someone who works in that particular field, so whether he/she is an aspie or not, his knowledge on that subject is much greater than mine.
I understand what you mean, but that kinda implies most post-docs are Aspies...? Which... does not surprise me if there are higher proportions of us at that level of study. I mean, you have to be pretty obsessed with a narrow range of subjects to spend a part of your life sieving through it.
But there is confirmation that we are wired differently. I, for example, am awful at names. Will be about to recognise people's faces (features, complexion, scars, EVERTHING) easily, but cannot grasp names.
P.S. I think I am derailing my own thread... ROFL
What was this thread about again?
Anyway, my algebra teacher I thought was a mathematical savant - the guy is a jenius (that's supposed to be a funny -a j instead of a g). That's why I thought he was an Aspie cause he had several other traits too. He got his Masters at 24. Couldn't carry a conversation for nothing. I really do think a lot of the mathmaticians and engineers are Aspie. It wouldn't surprise me. That's why I like hanging around here too because Aspies have some really intellectual conversations. Nt stuff is usually football, movie stars and weather.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
nurseangela wrote:
D0gbert wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
...ever thought that the people you can carry a conversation with might be Aspies?
In some cases, it's because I am talking to someone who works in that particular field, so whether he/she is an aspie or not, his knowledge on that subject is much greater than mine.
I understand what you mean, but that kinda implies most post-docs are Aspies...? Which... does not surprise me if there are higher proportions of us at that level of study. I mean, you have to be pretty obsessed with a narrow range of subjects to spend a part of your life sieving through it.
But there is confirmation that we are wired differently. I, for example, am awful at names. Will be about to recognise people's faces (features, complexion, scars, EVERTHING) easily, but cannot grasp names.
P.S. I think I am derailing my own thread... ROFL
What was this thread about again?
Anyway, my algebra teacher I thought was a mathematical savant - the guy is a jenius (that's supposed to be a funny -a j instead of a g). That's why I thought he was an Aspie cause he had several other traits too. He got his Masters at 24. Couldn't carry a conversation for nothing. I really do think a lot of the mathmaticians and engineers are Aspie. It wouldn't surprise me. That's why I like hanging around here too because Aspies have some really intellectual conversations. Nt stuff is usually football, movie stars and weather.
Actually, now that I think about it, he got his Masters at 22 because I remember he had been an instructor for 9 years before I met him and I remember he had totally went past his bachelors degree and straight to his Masters. Gosh, thinking back on it he must have thought I was a real doofus even though I did manage to get an A. I think he gave it to me - there were only 6 of us left by the end cause the class was extremely hard and he wasn't really good at teaching. I sent him 243 emails during the whole class and he answered every one in less than 5 min day or night. There was something there, but he didn't answer when I asked him out (long story). I was the only one that gave him a good review. I couldn't have made it through that class without him. What's funny is that he's doing all online classes now - maybe because of "us" and our 243 emails he's finding out he can do online teaching better. Sounds a little bit Aspie to me.
_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
OliveOilMom wrote:
NT's get insulted when they are told they are doing something annoying or that is bothering others. Thats why they won't tell us straight out what we are doing and just avoid us. I'd rather be told. In fact I tell every friend I have early on that I can be annoying and I won't notice it but they need to tell me when I am and it's not rude and I won't get mad, in fact I'll appreciate it. They usually do and we get along fine. It goes against their nature to say something like that to people unless they are trying to insult them or they dislike them. They think it's nicer to just leave you alone.
Try what I do, it really works. I rarely have people drop me now. I do have them tell me I'm being annoying though, and thats cool. When they tell me I stop.
Try what I do, it really works. I rarely have people drop me now. I do have them tell me I'm being annoying though, and thats cool. When they tell me I stop.
As an NT I think this is great advice. My sense is that many of us take constructive criticism pretty hard, and so the rule is - don't criticize someone unless you are trying to antagonize them, need them to change their behavior (i.e. someone you work with is doing something incorrectly and you are somehow affected), are responsible for them (like a parent, teacher or boss), or are very close with them (good friends and siblings will occasionally tell each other hard but necessary truths that others won't tell them).
I heard an anecdote of a woman going to have dinner with another adult woman on the spectrum, who proceeded to do many things in the restaurant which waitstaff would perceive as extremely rude. It turns out that no one had ever taught her how to order her food appropriately, and so she had just always done it the way that seemed logical to her. Since everyone around her was trying to be nice, nobody had ever told her that she was coming across as a jerk, and so she had gone for years doing this until this one woman helpfully set her straight.
I think to piggy-back off of OliveOilMom's advice, I would recommend that not only do you tell your friends that you want them to be brutally honest with you about your mistakes, but if you ever sense that something has changed in a conversation or situation and you don't know why, you should remind them again - "remember I know that I make mistakes sometimes and I really need my friends to tell me when I make them. If I screwed up and you tell me, I'll try not to be mad, and I'll be grateful to you for being honest with me."